City warns residents about unlicensed curb painters
by TP staff
Oct 11, 2013 | 5744 views | 18 18 comments | 46 46 recommendations | email to a friend | print
The city of Tracy code enforcement division is warning residents about people offering street curb painting in the Huntington Park subdivision between Byron and W. 11th Street.

Ana Contreras, community preservation manager with code enforcement said residents began reporting the notices as an offer to paint street address numbers on the curbs in front of homes on Wednesday, October 9.

Contreras said the notice was by a for-profit company offering to paint the numbers for a fee in the $10 range.

The city of Tracy requires anyone offering a service to paint curbs have a business license and an encroachment permit — which allows construction, maintenance or repair work in a public street or alley.

Contreras said the city does not allow anyone to paint on curbs as it is a violation of the Graffiti Control Ordinance 3.48. and is considered defacing city property.

The people performing this work are not approved or sponsored by the city and do not have the required permits.

Curb painting without the required permits is a violation of the Tracy Municipal Code section 7.04.010 and can carry fines and court penalties according to code enforcement.

A business found painting the curbs would be eligible for a criminal citation. A homeowner who paints the curb, or allowed it to be painted, would be subject to a violation notice and be required to remove the paint from the curb.

The section itself does not specify the amount of fines to be imposed by the city.

Residents who are contacted by the curb painters or see anyone posting notices for the painting within city limits are asked to contact the Tracy Police Department at 831-4550 or code enforcement at 831-6410.

Contact Glenn Moore at 830-4252 or gmoore@tracypress.com

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Cmdral
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October 21, 2013
Al Galaviz here,

We live in a City so desperate for money, we need to pay for a permit, just to breath air. Its not about design paint colors, its about money PLain and simple, we need to vote out that brain dead bunch,

They talk about High Techology coming to Tracy, when they can understand the difference between a microchip and a cowchip.

What next they divide Tracy in half, West Tracy and East Tracy, with a check point Charlie at 11th Street and Central Avenue, where you show ID Papers, pay a passage fee, and say Hail Hitler.
Gio3og5ooWi
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October 19, 2013
What a stupid response by a city. Curb numbers are helpful. They're right there on the street where people can see them. They're easily lit up by vehicle headlights at night. Unlike house numbers, which can be hard to locate when driving by, and often are poorly lit, curb numbers are easy to spot from the road without turning your head for long. They're the first thing I look for when trying to find an address. I feel like a safer driver when looking for an address in a neighborhood that has lots of curb numbers.

I can understand an argument about business permits, but really the city should just gently nudge the curb painters into going through the proper process rather than acting like they are going to throw the book at them with every lame code interpretation they can think of. And to require all these other permits they are talking about is crazy. These other permits tend to be address specific, require bonds, insurance, application fees, etc ... PER PERMIT. They are designed for actual construction, not a quick paint job the size of a bumper sticker. There's really no way a useful business like curb painting is going to be able to operate in that type of environment.
me-here
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October 21, 2013
My thought is that this would be a great project for kids to do .... like DARE or special project.

I ahd numers painted and then the City tore up the streets and I have new curbs and would love someone to paint my numbers again.
emmaspencer
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October 17, 2013
attn; forthunderdog; You obviously don't own any property near or adjacent to a RR line or you would know this, those type of property's " SHARE " an "EASEMENT" with the RR that owns that or any particular line at their discretion. In this case, They do "SHARE" otherwise the IN SHAPE on S.tracy Blvd. would not have been able to expand their parking lot towards the line as they did. It is also known that, after a certain number of years, the property owner that's using and maintaining said EASEMENT takes ownership of that property and pays the taxes on it!!!!!!!!!!!!
fortheunderdog
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October 22, 2013
Gee EmmaS, thanks for letting me know because as you said I do not own property near or adjacent to a RR line. So you're saying that those homes who have expanded their yards into RR property are now paying property taxes on that space? Friends of mine have friends who have expanded their backyards into RR property and are not paying additional property tax on the added space.
emmaspencer
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October 16, 2013
I agree, we live in Circle "B" and some of our neighbors have had their house #'s painted on the curb in front for that vary reason; to make it more visible to emergency/delivery persons. We have in this area about 25% RETIRED FOLKS and any little thing WE do to make our lives safer for us should not be illegal. I understand the city code enforcement has a job to do but, this is just HIPPO CRITICAL HARASSMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SpikeVFR
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October 17, 2013
put your number on your house, where it will not wear off as quickly, will not be blocked by parked cars or garbage cans. Even better make it one of the lighted number signs so it can be seek clearly at night. Much more helpful than putting it on a curb.

And the article doesn't say that they went after homeowner's, although it does mention it is illegal, they only talk about going after the contractors that are soliciting business to conduct something that shouldn't be done in the first place.

Also, I know when I got one of those flyers in a previous year, it tries very hard to make the homeowner think the number painting is mandatory. In an effort to ellicit more business -- very shady.
SpikeVFR
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October 16, 2013
What is draconian about wanting to make sure all contractors are licensed?

And trying to prevent the citizenship for paying for something they don't need to have done and indeed should not have done. Put your numbers on your house where they can be seen, that is it.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 16, 2013
Ya missed th point entirely Spike.

It's not a very important issue when thair are other bigger issues that code enforcement routinely ignores when they should be doing somethang about it.

As long as it don't cover th entire curb with some ridiculous color scheme if someone wants ta pay someone else a reasonable amount of money ta paint an address sign on thair curb city government shouldn't really need ta worry much about it. If they wanna go after th guy who's doin it as a for profit business an don't have th necessary license or permits, fine, go after that guy.

But ta go after home owners with a threat they are breakin th law? That's a bit absurd, especially when Code Enforcement Officers routinely skip nailing others for violating the code.

A government entity, such as our City, can't treat one set of people differently than another based on convenience or, better yet, monetary influence.

What am I talkin about? Specifically th set back line fer fences installed adjacent ta public roadways an private drives. Yep, it's all covered by th code. But ya can find many examples whair those codes are violated mainly because of public political an monetary pressures.

fortheunderdog
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October 17, 2013
Ornley's right about people extending their fences to give them more room. Just look at all those backyard fences moved back 10'-20' onto railroad property. You can see it all clearly on Corral Hollow at the tracks near Parkside. Maybe code enforcement should contact the RR company and let them know or contact the county so their property taxes are adjusted.
SpikeVFR
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October 17, 2013
orney - it is too painful to even read your posts

for - so because people break one rule, we all should be able to break all of them? Even when they aren't connected? Really?
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 21, 2013


SpikeVFR

"orney - it is too painful to even read your posts"

Then fer God's sake stop readin em an stop hurtin yerself.

"for - so because people break one rule, we all should be able to break all of them? Even when they aren't connected? Really?"

For? What's that all about?

Did I say that people should break th rules or even come close ta breakin em all? An what's this about connected? Connected ta what?

Don't let yer personal dislike fer me an what or how I write cause ya ta start spewin thangs that are not related ta th facts. Makes ya sound like some type of idiot when we both know yer not.

I an many others commentin here are simply pointin out th dichotomy of th city commin down hard on this while other more serious thangs are left untended to. Take care of th more important thangs first an generally th small stuff like this will disappear an ya don't have ta worry about it.

Now ta a more personal question regardin yer own personal habits. So, ya never break th rules. Never? Never hedge on that income tax statement? Never drove five miles over th speed limit? Never? By yer own human activities an thankin ya shouldn't follow any of th rules set fer society because ya never break any of em. Now honestly, we both know that ain't true. So why do you ascribe to me an others that people will break all th rules because some other people have broken some of th rules especially when I never said anythang close ta that?

Could it be that ya just personally don't like me or th way that I write?

Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 12, 2013
This is a little draconian don't ya thank? Now if they paint th entire curb or make an eyesore I can see people gettin upset. But ta paint a sign on th curb in front of yer house ta tell others th physical address of th house is actually a good idea when it comes ta emergency response personnel attempting ta find th house. Question, who authorized th hundreds of signs painted on our storm drains advising people not ta dump oil an other chemicals in them cus they flow ta th Delta? My bet it was th city. So, did th city go through all th implied permit/permission process ta do that or did someone just thank it was a good idea an did it anyway.

What with all th problems going on in town is painting an address on yer curb somethang we really need ta worry about much? Down ta th point whair a threat of criminal activity is leveled at all citizens? An this "code enforcement" when other codes are routinely ignored, like fence setbacks and buildin fences. Seems just a flex of a muscle by some code enforcement person that can't perform adequately in other areas of th job. Oops! Will they arrest me like TSA for commenting how stupid this is? If they could I am sure they would.
landingapproach
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October 12, 2013
The bottom line is that the City Of Tracy feels that it needs more money and therefore forces someone to buy a business permit. What a shame. Looks like Tracy is once again trying to play Big Brother even on something so small such as paying someone to paint your house number on the curb. Really - Tracy!! Get over it.
CJSG
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October 14, 2013
Very draconian.
emmaspencer
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October 17, 2013
I agree but, as to "FENCES" check out CITY OF TRACY'S ONLINE PERMIT PROCESS "Fences", Some lots are considered "OPEN CORNER LOTS" were there isn't a STOP SIGN,these lots LIKE MINE, have no stop sign on that corner,and therefore isn't a safety hazard to drive around that corner without stopping!!! So YOUR line of sight isn't impaired by a fence sticking out of that property. The setback for these fences is 10Ft ( TEN FEET ) from the edge of the curb, according to the permit officer I talked to. If there is a stop sign then you as property owner can only go out about 5FT.,cause I think the setback is 20FT.from the curb. It does have it's advantages to have a lot like this because, it's a bigger lot, and you can use this extra space for a bigger back yard,or RV access, that will increase your property value!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrSycamore
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October 19, 2013
Don't people know that every business you do in the City requires a permit! What if the Contractor messed up on your number? Then what? I bet you would complain to the City that they should have done a better job policing the businesses that were soliciting!
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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October 21, 2013
MrSycamore

"What if the Contractor messed up on your number? Then what?"

I don't know about you but if that happened to me th person wouldn't get paid. Are ya in th habbit of payin fer services ya haven't yet received?



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