Your Voice: Don’t give up your guns
by Earl Jess, Tracy
Feb 08, 2013 | 4258 views | 37 37 comments | 10 10 recommendations | email to a friend | print
EDITOR,

Every time there is a mass killing, such as Sandy Hook School back east, or the mall in Portland, or the theater in Colorado, or Columbine, politicians jump on the bandwagon trying to make a reputation for themselves by enacting some new legislation for gun control.

We don’t need any new gun-control laws. We need to allow the police the leeway to enforce those that are already on the books.

I don’t care how many or how restrictive the laws are, those who are prone to commit crimes with guns will have guns to do so.

Some years ago, they pretty much scrapped the programs that maintained some control over those who were mentally unstable, turned them loose on the streets to fend for themselves. Today, we are seeing the results of that decision.

Another thing is we need to give the police the power to curb the gang violence. In some areas, it is running rampant, and downsized police departments can’t keep up.

I recently read an article about Australia, where they banned all semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic shotguns and pump-action shotguns from the civilian population.

Home invasions increased, as did assault. The Australian law states that those that are allowed to keep guns in their homes have to keep the gun locked in a gun safe and the ammunition in a separate room — rather redundant it seems to me.

Apparently, the law doesn’t clearly define what constitutes a home invasion, so those who are prone to commit such crimes know that when they choose to knock the door down to get in, those inside have no means to defend themselves.

Wake up America — this very well could be us next.

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debbdaves
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February 17, 2013
jtashinjan

congrats! I see you have been promoted to the ranks of "I don wanna speak to ya cause u dont sound like me." Welcome aboard.
backinblack
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February 17, 2013
jtashjian, Alrighty then, I can see we're done here. Thank you for the non-sensical reply to my reply to your first non-sensical reply. By the way, who exactly is ya'll?

Thanks for playing.
backinblack
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February 16, 2013
jtashjian, Please explain how "Bitter people hanging on to God & Guns" has anything to do with my response to one of DD's questions?

Let's see, I politely addressed a question by giving a scenario where a car or knife would be poor examples of a way to defend oneself. I went on to state I do not own a gun. I made a general reference to people who believe - insert debbdaves name here, every Tracy resident is a redneck. You may be new here but her own words over the past two years or so prove this as fact.

I obviously do not have a gun to hold on to, God was not referenced - by the way I do not believe in a higher being, and I'm actually a very happy person.

By the way, if the wise man you are referencing is Obama, sorry to say but your definition of wise is a bit off. Those who do not fall into the merry band of Obama's obsequious followers realize the man isn't close to being as intelligent as people believe him to be.
jtashjian
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February 16, 2013
backinblack: Y'all just pissed off cus it ain't cracker country no more! Ain't nuttin you can do about it dough. Even dem reepublicans pushin a lathino fer president now! Eet like can't elect a white man no more! Haatdiggitty - Gone are dem guns! We gonna spread yo wealth like warm butter on toast!
Hahahahahaha
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February 16, 2013
Ain't no crackers on Forecast Lane!
backinblack
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February 16, 2013
"If knives and cars are lethal, why not use them to protect ourselves?"

One or more thugs break into your house with the intent to rape, pilage, and plunder. Um, it might be a little bit on the difficult side to run them down with your car. As far as protecting yourself with a knife, did you stop to think that would take dangerous up close contact with the thugs? Unless one has ninja or some other lethal skills it seems it would be pretty tough to take out an attacker with a knife.

Disclaimer, I do not own a gun, do not own a lifted truck, and sure as hell do not come remotely close to being a redneck - oh wait, I live in Tracy so in certain peoples minds that means I'm a redneck.

jtashjian
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February 16, 2013
As a wise man once said "Bitter people hanging on to God & Guns".
PublicCitizen
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February 16, 2013
A fool once said, "Everybody will see their healthcare costs go down by $2500 a year"
helpmeunderstandsumpin
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February 16, 2013
Why would a wise man say that jtashjian? If that man were wise he should be more interested in taking illegal guns from criminals. He sounds more like a political hack than a wise man.

Let me ask you something. If Obama said he wanted to take illegal guns off the street do you believe he could do that? Do you believe he can make Americans safer? Why can't you, Obama and other activists support taking illegal guns off the street?

Do you have a romantic relationship with apathy or do you just have a fancy for sweet talk. Ghani said you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

recycleit
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February 16, 2013
Honduras and British cops have nothing to do with American crime. British cops are concerned with a far greater threats. You have no idea what you are talking about because you never lived there or saw a poster informing citizens to call the authorities if your neighbor's apartment has multiple cellphones. British cops can take down as many drunks from the pub as they want, tell that to someone in America who is going to prison for organized street pharmacy. You expect the DEA to bust down the door with a baton but that's an unfair expectation on your part. Instead why don't you sign up for the job. I thought so. The reason why people have illegal guns is because they dont want to go to jail. That is what you called "gun hungry". Your need for more unenforced gun laws will never in a thousand years change the "gun hungry" as you called them. Somewhere in your mind, you believe you can reason with someone who has illegal guns and is going to prison and you naively believe that person would hand over their illegal guns. Well, you need to take another psychology class.
debbdaves
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February 15, 2013
blacks dont commit crimes because they are black, crimes are committed by those who fall through the cracks of a system which is unevenly in favor of the privileged......and if guns are easily available to them, like they are, dont be surprised if people get killed..... If guns dont kill and people do, why do we need guns for protection? If knives and cars are lethal, why not use them to protect ourselves? No one can go on a shooting spree with a knife. Ban Guns. Ever seen a British cop make an arrest with nothing more than a batan?
debbdaves
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February 15, 2013
so now we are okay because Honduras is worse off? LOL
debbdaves
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February 15, 2013
Crime rate do have a lot to do with economic disparity but other countries in the world have the same disparity too and not all of them have high gun related death rates and gun use and gun availability. We are a gun hungry country and it has a direct correlation to fatality.
recycleit
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February 15, 2013
You don't know what you're talking about debdaves. Honduras is a country that has high gun crime. You attack rednecks, but the biggest gun crime in America is black on black with illegal guns because. The gun laws in this country are not enforced. Yet you make it sound like rednecks want to eradicate minorities. The minorities are having more abortions than ever before thought possible. We don't have rednecks to worry about. It's the uneducated among us, like yourself.
debbdaves
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February 15, 2013
jtashjian, you know what they say about Freudian compensation, if you see a redneck with a truck with raised tires, just remember he is trying to appear bigger than he really is........sputty and his comrades love their guns big......simple translation, big guns, small brains, all bronze.....welcome to cowboy land. Lets go hunt some natives, oh wait, we already wiped them out when we claimed their country as ours. Now lets turn on our own, minorities first.
recycleit
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February 15, 2013
The crime rate is indicative of a disparity of two classes debdaves. There are poor and rich who own guns to protect themselves. It's not just redneck population. There are probably people in your own family. You have no idea what you are talking about. I knew a woman in Florida who kept a loaded handgun around the house because there were home invasions reported. She was not a redneck male. She was a woman who did not want her life turned upside down by a rapist thug monster in her own home with her children watching.
jtashjian
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February 15, 2013
Recyclist: I do not think DD said no one should have guns. There is actually a middle ground. One wants to protect their house - A shotgun works marvelously. What better way to shoot an intruder while you are groggy from being woken up in the middle of the night. You want to go hunting, own several hunting rifles. The problem begins with the hand guns & assault weapons. With the exception of people with CCW permits, there is really no justification for hand guns. Unless you are in law enforcement or military, there is no justification for assault weapons or high caliber magazines. Look at Penal Code 12022.53(b), (c) & (d); also known as the 10,20, life law for use of a firearm in commission of a violent felony. It has put away hundreds of violent criminals for enormous prison sentences. But it has not even made a dent in violent gun crimes in the last 15 years. Look, politics aside, seriously, is your right to bare handguns and assault weapons more important than the life of a single child? More important than the loss of a parent? a spouse?
PublicCitizen
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February 15, 2013
jtashjian,

You make a great Brownshirt. First you stated you were against assault weapons and high capacity magazines, now you say there is no justification for handguns as well?

You fall right in step with Obama and his hidden agendas, first ban the assault weapons and high capacity magazines, then go after the hand guns.

If we actually enforced the gun laws we already have on the books, and had responsible gun ownership we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
debbdaves
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February 15, 2013
Sputty the only ammunition you seem to have is located way south of your brain.....you are welcome to keep it and pass it on to your redneck generations.
jtashjian
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February 15, 2013
To shay DD. You are right about Sputty's ammo being way south of his brain. Don't worry. It's really small caliber Ammo. LOL
debbdaves
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February 15, 2013
The number of gun related deaths in US is one of the highest world wide, as is the prison population, what gives?
debbdaves
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February 15, 2013
So gun control won't help because those who want to use a gun will find one: how true, like this ten year old who wanted to kill an annoying class mate, and got a gun, with ammunition. It would not have helped if gun control had deprived him or his parents of this gun, right? And furthermore, these gun toting red necks say the solution would be to have teachers be trained in using guns and be able to shoot ten years olds before they go on a shooting spree, so as the ensure we keep the guns, but not tamper with the law that allows everyone to own one. What kind of society has schools with guards and guns? One run by red necks who are rooted in the violence that led to the inception of this country. Instead

SEATTLE — In what has become a chillingly familiar event across the country, school authorities in eastern Washington recently discovered a gun and a knife in the backpack of a student. But what stunned the small town of Colville was whom the backpack belonged to: a 10-year-old student at Fort Colville Elementary School.

School authorities said two fifth-grade boys planned to use the weapons to lure another student outside the school and kill her "because she was really annoy.
PublicCitizen
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February 15, 2013
Molon labe.
jtashjian
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February 11, 2013
So let me get this right Earl! We should have more programs to house & maintain the mentally unstable, fund more police officers, budget for heightened security at schools and have paid armed guards at school just so that a select few can buy, keep, shoot & worship assault weapons & large caliber magazines? Sound mighty expensive and paid for by all the tax payers, not just the gun worshippers. Sounds very much contrary to the repblican ideals you stand for Earl - Unless of course Guns are heigher on the rightwing totempole than taxes. Oh! By the way, you don't live in Australia - although many of us wish you did.
jtashjian
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February 15, 2013
Hey Sputty: It's generally a good idea to actually read a comment before responding to it - that is if you can read! I never said we should ban ALL guns - Only assault weapons & large caliber magazines. You do NOT need an AR-15 with a 100 round drum clip to protect your home Einstein! 1)99% guns the criminals have are stolen, inherited or purchased from legitimate owners. 2) No. I do not believe Joe crank addict who's doing a Home invasion in Stockton is going to walk across the border to buy guns. 3) As to "free handouts" - contrary to popular belief the govt does NOT provide welfare or other such services to non-citizens. 4) All this discussion is theatrical anyway because we democrats are in power (thanks to the republican party's self destruction) and will be for the foreseeable future (thanks to the tea party & other extreme right wingers). We (Democrates) will eventually ban assault weapons & large capacity magazines and there will be nothing you can do about it - you know it's coming! Remember - THEY DESERVE A VOTE!
PublicCitizen
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February 15, 2013
Here are a few benefits these soon to be Democrat voters receive-

Emergency Medicaid provided in emergency rooms, although well intentioned, has been used and abused by illegal aliens as their own personal physician, resulting in the bankruptcy of many small hospitals across the nation, particularly in California.

Federal benefits distributed to illegal aliens include: grants, contracts, loans, professional and commercial licenses, retirement, welfare, WIC, disability, public housing, college education, Pell grants, food stamps, tax credits, earned income credits, tax refunds, and unemployment benefits.

Say what you want people, but this great country of ours is being overrun by these locusts.

jtashjian
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February 15, 2013
SO your right to have guns trumps educating children of illegal immigrants? I do not beleive so. That's why I am a liberal - I actually CARE ABOUT OTHERS.
PublicCitizen
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February 15, 2013
My right to own a gun is protected by the 2nd amendment. Please tell me what amendment protects illegals? Or for that matter, what amendment states that we have to educate, house, feed, clothe, or do anything for illegal aliens?
recycleit
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February 15, 2013
How is it liberals can stand to say they care about people? Indigenous people are treated like cattle and herded across the border by mafioso types who control tunnels with machine guns. Liberals care my arse. They only care to make themselves feel good about themselves and puff their chests at parties. How stupid. People are made slaves and injustice goes unreported across the border. What do you care liberal? You have no clue what it's like to pray the rosary and hope to hell to leave the country you love.
Macpup
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February 10, 2013
The Federal gun legislation may have difficulty, but California's Legislators are hard at work http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_22544460/californias-state-senate-democrats-roll-out-big-gun. Part of their sweeping legislation includes CONFISCATING legally-registered weapons to keep us safe. Since we have a Democratic majority - no checks and balances in our government - they can and will do whatever they want. I feel safer already!
mtrew
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February 09, 2013
First of all the assault ban wont pass. The Congress has a different make-up than it did when it passed before. For those on the left - the assault ban wont really make a difference because there are way too many other guns to choose from. For those on the right - it wont really make a difference because there are way too many other guns for you to choose from. For those on the left - It would be nice if there were no guns but that is a fantasy. It is impossible to get all the guns off the street. For those on the right - it would be impossible for the govt to get all the guns out of our hands. It is logistically IMPOSSIBLE. Plus over 75% of the USA support the 2nd amendment. Politicians need votes to get into and stay in office. I'm sure they are not looking to piss off over 3/4 of the country. It's simple job security. They will never be able to take our guns. Dont fall for the scare tactics. For those on the left, also dont fall for scare tactics on your side. People kill people. Everyone needs to get off the assault ban argument and look at the 23 referendums. They are a good start!
Sneaky
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February 09, 2013
"Some years ago, they pretty much scrapped the programs that maintained some control over those who were mentally unstable, turned them loose on the streets to fend for themselves. Today, we are seeing the results of that decision."

I find it ironic that gun toting conservatives are now crying about the lack of mental healthcare services. Lets not forget that they were all scrapped because of all the anti tax folks who are unwilling to pay for them. In most cases the anti tax folks and the gun lovers are one in the same. Yet now these same folks are running around crying "I luvs me gun. Dont take me gun. Get duh mental folks offa da streets."

Its doubly ironic since Obama's healthcare initiative, the one that those same gun toting conservatives cry about, will offer significant improvements in access to mental healthcare.

Hahahahahaha
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February 09, 2013
Sneaky,

I am neither gun-loving nor a conservative Republican, so my take on your comments here is not tainted by personal political opinions. That said, you and I might actually share an opinion from time to time. However, based solely on your comments here, it’s very easy to see that you suffer from at least a mild form of mental retardation.
LuckyInTracyNot
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February 08, 2013
Great letter Mr. Jess. Some folks will blindly go along with this simply because this is what King Obama wants.

I have yet to hear of a armed robber or intruder who was waiting for their backgrounds check to clear California DOJ so they can legally get a gun to rob a bank or invade a home or do a drive by shooting. You see, the legal lawful gun owners are the only ones under attack here and we are made out to look like right winged terrorists if we disagree with them.

Take a look at it and come to your own conclusion, more gun control does nothing at all to stop mass shootings or robbery's.

It is all about control and disarming the citizens of America.


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