11th District race looks locked by McNerney
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As of Tuesday, Nov. 30 — just three days before county elections officials had to certify their vote tallies to the California Secretary of State — Rep. Jerry McNerney looked to have secured a victory over Republican challenger David Harmer in the race for California’s 11th Congressional District seat.

With all the votes reported to the secretary’s office, McNerney held a slim but significant 2,658 vote lead over Harmer districtwide, through Harmer bested the incumbent Democrat by 4,393 votes in the San Joaquin County portion of the four-county district.

Overall, McNerney led 115,361 votes to 112,703, with American Independent David Christensen earning 12,439. McNerney’s campaign declared victory on Nov. 10.

As of 5 p.m. Wednesday, Dec. 1, Harmer had not conceded the race. Neither had he asked for a recount of votes.

“The campaign is looking at several things and trying to decide … what the right course is,” said Tim Clark, a campaign manager for Harmer.

According to San Joaquin County Registrar of Voters Austin Erdman, if the Harmer campaign wants the ballots to be recounted, they have until 5 p.m. Monday, Dec. 6, to request one.

If Harmer seeks a fresh tally, his campaign would have to come up with money to get the count rolling — in San Joaquin County, Erdman said that total would amount to $1,200 per five-person counting board.

But Erdman said Wednesday it’s extremely unlikely the 2,658-vote difference could be closed via a recount.

“Had they been within 250 votes, I would have expected (a recount),” he said.

“I never say never, because I don’t have jurisdiction over the other three jurisdictions (in the 11th District), but I can tell you they’re not going to find them here in San Joaquin.”

Clark said Harmer would likely make an announcement about his plans in the next couple days.

Meanwhile, McNerney’s campaign manager, Sarah Hersh, said Wednesday that the congressman was honored to be re-elected and looks forward to serving the district for another two-year term.

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ConcernedNeighbor
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December 05, 2010
Also an Independent, a conservative one.

I am allergic to the word liberal, it could go two ways, to be liberated from responsibilities of consequences of pat decisions foisted on others in disguise of "liberating" them.

Yep, a Conservative Independent here.

Health Care Proposal is a SHAM.

CN

dcose
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December 05, 2010
DeclinetoState rabidly wrote »

"First of all it doesnt take much education to figure out that continuing tax cuts will cause this country to borrow another 700bil..not much i guess"

Your lack of a passable grade in the most basic of economics and life classes continues to show.

STOP OVERSPENDING. Instead of talking points... do some background research.

"...but i thought the t party express was for getting the deficit down..not increasing it?"

Now its the "t party express"? Here we are... again... STOP OVERSPENDING.

"and as far as Liberals being used as a negative descriptor..i for one am proud of being a liberal." description:

"A LIBERAL is a person who is generous, abundant, caring and compassionate, broadminded, plentiful, Not narrow in one's Ideas, Favorable to progress and reform."

Generous- Redistributing other people's money and possessions until they runout, generally causing conflict, grief, degradation, and massive financial & social debt.

Abundant- Rasmussen Poll- 9% liberal 24% conservative. My party... thumped again in CA, your party bounced by voters overall making you less abundant.

Caring- Seen the deficit lately? We've spent the unborn into the poor house... course if they're not allowed to be born... its not an issue. Those that are... will thank us for being saddled with our ginormous debts.

Compassionate- Rangle too busy vacationing or using subsidized apartments to rewrite tax code, Waters intervention to fund shortfalls in her husband's bank, Frank tearing down the banking system to give loans to poor credit risks, Dodd (with Ted Kennnedy) giving his manhood in a Senate dining room floor to a waitress sandwich, Democrats giving us reduced medical services at greater expense thru ObamaCare, Government Motors coal derived Chevy Volt to cleanse the environment, the... enough.

Broadminded- “A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.” - Robert Frost

see also, The Civil War, Jim Crow Laws, the NAZI party, the Soviet Union, Brown vs the Board of Education, the Civil Rights Act... a lot covered, I see how broad minded liberals are.

Plentiful- A funny thing happened on the way after the elections. 111th Congress is 59% Democrats, 41% Republican whereas the 112th will be 44% Democrat, 56% Republican. Someone doesn't believe your being fruitful was good for the economy or the direction of the country. The State Governorships and House were even worse.

Not narrow in one's Ideas- I have to agree. See waitress sandwich on Senate Dining Room floor reference above.

Favorable to progress and reform- ROTFLMAO. See Compassionate above

"Conservatism is a partially heritable personality trait that predisposes some people to be cognitively inflexible"

as opposed to your ability to juxtapose conflicting facts otherwise known as "cognitive dissonance"

"fond of hierarchy"

legitimately elected hierarchy... yes, as opposed to your love of anarchy.

"inordinately afraid of uncertainty","change"

Business and life requires I deal with both constantly... so no inordinate fear there

"death" (had weapons pointed at me, been shot at, been pulled over for doing 130 mph on a bike, skydived into events, tight places, lakes, scuba dived... buried a loved one... afraid of death? You have me confused with yourself.

"conservative: 1a. Hypocrite; falsely pious, repressive, insanely puritanical; hater of diversity and complexity. 1b. One who fears change and thinks 'liberal' is a curse word : "Psychological Bulletin": July '03 issue, "Political Conservativism as Motivated Social Cognition"

Great cite. You don't suppose it was penned by a typical angry flaming lib do you?

"Where are the te party people rallying against the borrowing of the 700bil to continue tax cuts?"

Borrow it? WTF?

"Ohhhhh the big money people Koch bros and chamber foreign money won't finance those rallies?"

Now its the te party? Focus. Why do I care about what the Koch brothers will or won't finance? Its their money to do with as the please... and feel free to cite the Chamber's use of foreign money. After all, we are not libs here, (making shite up as you deem the necessity)

"lmao at c cose//i too no longer will address his insanity. applauding the continuance of a policy that will not help this country"

You had a majority of the power for the 4 years... you've had all the power for 2... you voted for change ... and we got it. We spent more than any country, nation/state, empire in the history of mankind, and got ourselves a $5 trillion dollars in debt just in the last 2 years. We now owe about $14 trillion dollars

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

http://libertyworks.com/obamas-soaring-deficit/

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/08/federal_spending_deficit_explo.html

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/
DeclinetoState
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December 04, 2010
Wow D cose continues with his ad hominem posts..right off glenn becks blackboard?

First of all it doesnt take much education to figure out that continuing tax cuts will cause this country to borrow another 700bil..not much i guess...but i thought the t party express was for getting the deficit down..not increasing it?

and as far as Liberals being used as a negative descriptor..i for one am proud of being a liberal.

description:

A LIBERAL is a person who is generous, abundant, caring and compassionate, broadminded, plentiful, Not narrow in one's Ideas, Favorable to progress and reform.

Conservative

Conservatism is a partially heritable personality trait that predisposes some people to be cognitively inflexible, fond of hierarchy, and inordinately afraid of uncertainty, change, and death

conservative: 1a. Hypocrite; falsely pious, repressive, insanely puritanical; hater of diversity and complexity. 1b. One who fears change and thinks 'liberal' is a curse word : "Psychological Bulletin": July '03 issue, "Political Conservativism as Motivated Social Cognition

.

Where are the te party people rallying against the borrowing of the 700bil to continue tax cuts? Ohhhhh the big money people Koch bros and chamber foreign money won't finance those rallies?

lmao at c cose//i too no longer will address his insanity. applauding the continuance of a policy that will not help this country
dcose
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December 04, 2010
... (the Rove/Atwater workshop) "In order to build the pub party we need to get the less educated..they will vote on faith not fact...after two weekends of that,,i became and independant"

A liberal professing independent status... how ordinary. Still quaking like a duck... reviewing your posts it looks like they had the less educated and he left to be " and independant" (sic).

"So continue with your ad hominem insults without fact DCose I will not longer reply to fiction"

Wouldn't bother replying either if I had my tax cut repudiation nuts in your bind

"No one is blaming the tax cuts to job loss,,read again..just stating they do not build job growth and economy like the pubs are parroting"

No job loss... no job growth... so an equilibrium is created?

"Fact..unemployment funds meagre as they are do go right back into the economy..not a solution..but neither is aspirin for a headache ."

Thereby increasing the cost of doing business... putting more people out of work. Can't argue with your logic... too incoherent.

You exemplify California's thought process to financial ruin.

Liberals... unable to change.
Nitegama
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December 04, 2010
dcose

liberals unable to change..lmao

Interesting the projection conservatives use ..

One of the tools taught in the Rove/Atwater workshop i attended many years ago ..causing me to leave the pub party and become independent

In order to build the pub party we need to get the less educated..they will vote on faith not fact...after two weekends of that,,i became and independant

So continue with your ad hominem insults without fact DCose I will not longer reply to fiction

Hawk eyes..get new glasses:

No one is blaming the tax cuts to job loss,,read again..just stating they do not build job growth and economy like the pubs are parroting

Read it again..Comprehend

Fact..unemployment funds meagre as they are do go right back into the economy..not a solution..but neither is aspirin for a headache .
dcose
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December 03, 2010
"Before Bankruptcy, Conservatives Touted Ireland As Model For U.S."

"However since the fake conservatives posting in this thread seem to be allergic to fact..i doubt any of them will read it or this"

Liberals... unable to change.

Faith & Begorra simple one...Taxes (revenues) and Spending (expenditures) though related are different animals. Washington and Sacramento have proven beyond all doubt that the amount of money they receive, is quickly pee'd away in ever increasing amounts.

The EU PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) have devastated their financial systems to the point they may drag Germany down with them. Lucky U.S. We get to help bail them out (after giving them at least $300 billion dollars while looking at our financial system increasing its deficit by 25% in two short years under the tutelage of the most economically ignore group of leaders in the last 80 plus years... a tipping point is close or worse, we may have passed it. We only get to find out after the fact. So Please take and get your sorry a** educated so you have some idea of what your talking about.
HawkEyes2see
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December 03, 2010
Nitegama,

You are comparing apples to oranges. And you misunderstand the root causes. Tax cuts are not the root cause of the recession. To blame a recession on tax cuts is the epitomy of fiscal folly.

The tax cuts you derided simply provide families relief. Many of whom are taking pay cuts while congress has contemplated raising the same higher taxes you are touting.

Jobs go overseas to places like Ireland, because it costs less. But it now cost less elsewhere. I could go on but I think you'll get the picture.

dcose
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December 03, 2010
Nitegama wrote »

"Comments by the so called conservatives are very interesting.."

Comments by liberals or progressives or whatever, alternate between hilarious and tiring... but that's life.

"they refuse to fact the fact that the bush tax cuts for all has done nothing for job growth and economy"

Is it W you dislike... tax cuts period... or anyone supporting them? Feel free to pay more. Get your friends Warren Buffett and Fareed Zakaria to join you.

Bureau of the Public Debt, http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/

or

Gifts to the United States

U.S. Department of the Treasury

Credit Accounting Branch

3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D

Hyattsville, MD 20782

Former presidential comments on tax cuts...

"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."

– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president's news conference

"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."

– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964

"In today's economy, fiscal prudence and responsibility call for tax reduction even if it temporarily enlarges the federal deficit – why reducing taxes is the best way open to us to increase revenues."

– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 21, 1963, annual message to the Congress: "The Economic Report Of The President"

"It is no contradiction – the most important single thing we can do to stimulate investment in today's economy is to raise consumption by major reduction of individual income tax rates."

– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 21, 1963, annual message to the Congress: "The Economic Report Of The President"

"Our tax system still siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power and reduces the incentive for risk, investment and effort – thereby aborting our recoveries and stifling our national growth rate."

– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 24, 1963, message to Congress on tax reduction and reform, House Doc. 43, 88th Congress, 1st Session.

"A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and a balanced federal budget. Every taxpayer and his family will have more money left over after taxes for a new car, a new home, new conveniences, education and investment. Every businessman can keep a higher percentage of his profits in his cash register or put it to work expanding or improving his business, and as the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues."

– John F. Kennedy, Sept. 18, 1963, radio and television address to the nation on tax-reduction bill

"I have asked the secretary of the treasury to report by April 1 on whether present tax laws may be stimulating in undue amounts the flow of American capital to the industrial countries abroad through special preferential treatment."

– John F. Kennedy, Feb. 6, 1961, message to Congress on gold and the balalnce of payments deficit

"In those countries where income taxes are lower than in the United States, the ability to defer the payment of U.S. tax by retaining income in the subsidiary companies provides a tax advantage for companies operating through overseas subsidiaries that is not available to companies operating solely in the United States. Many American investors properly made use of this deferral in the conduct of their foreign investment."

– John F. Kennedy, April 20, 1961, message to Congress on taxation

"Our present tax system ... exerts too heavy a drag on growth ... It reduces the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking ... The present tax load ... distorts economic judgments and channels an undue amount of energy into efforts to avoid tax liabilities."

– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, press conference

"The present tax codes ... inhibit the mobility and formation of capital, add complexities and inequities which undermine the morale of the taxpayer, and make tax avoidance rather than market factors a prime consideration in too many economic decisions."

– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 23, 1963, special message to Congress on tax reduction and reform

"In short, it is a paradoxical truth that ... the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now. The experience of a number of European countries and Japan have borne this out. This country's own experience with tax reduction in 1954 has borne this out. And the reason is that only full employment can balance the budget, and tax reduction can pave the way to that employment. The purpose of cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."

– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, news conference

"The largest single barrier to full employment of our manpower and resources and to a higher rate of economic growth is the unrealistically heavy drag of federal income taxes on private purchasing power, initiative and incentive."

– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 24, 1963, special message to Congress on tax reduction and reform

"Expansion and modernization of the nation's productive plant is essential to accelerate economic growth and to improve the international competitive position of American industry ... An early stimulus to business investment will promote recovery and increase employment."

– John F. Kennedy, Feb. 2, 1961, message on economic recovery

"We must start now to provide additional stimulus to the modernization of American industrial plants ... I shall propose to the Congress a new tax incentive for businesses to expand their normal investment in plant and equipment."

– John F. Kennedy, Feb. 13, 1961, National Industrial Conference Board

"A bill will be presented to the Congress for action next year. It will include an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. It will include long-needed tax reform that logic and equity demand ... The billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer and our businessmen will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. Every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary. And these new jobs and new salaries can create other jobs and other salaries and more customers and more growth for an expanding American economy."

– John F. Kennedy, Aug. 13, 1962, radio and television report on the state of the national economy

"This administration pledged itself last summer to an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in personal and corporate income taxes ... Next year's tax bill should reduce personal as well as corporate income taxes, for those in the lower brackets, who are certain to spend their additional take-home pay, and for those in the middle and upper brackets, who can thereby be encouraged to undertake additional efforts and enabled to invest more capital ... I am confident that the enactment of the right bill next year will in due course increase our gross national product by several times the amount of taxes actually cut."

– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, news conference

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?article_id=39517

Comparisons-

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/323.html

with an unemployment rate continuing to rise

Nitegama
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December 03, 2010
Comments by the so called conservatives are very interesting..they refuse to fact the fact that the bush tax cuts for all has done nothing for job growth and economy..but are parroting the talking points that in order to build jobs etc etc we need to keep them. Insanity: continuing the same policy expecting different results. Ya all might want to see how the Conservatives were touting the same values using Ireland as such a great example of how low taxes for corporations workd.

Before Bankruptcy, Conservatives Touted Ireland As Model For U.S.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/02/celtic-tiger-flip/

However since the fake conservatives posting in this thread seem to be allergic to fact..i doubt any of them will read it or this

Bush Officials Celebrate Tax Cut ‘Trap’ They Laid Nine Years Ago

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/03/bushies-celebrates-taxes/
HawkEyes2see
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December 03, 2010
Declinetostate,

If liberals want to put a feather in their cap I would suggest they stay away from the homeless under a bridge issue. California voters have been largely hoodwinked by liberal politicians who used and abused your same logic for decades.

It's the old help the homeless man and woman under a bridge. But a liberal controlled California legislative has done just that.

Helped the Californians under the bridge.

All you did was prove the bridge to nowhere and point finger.
dcose
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December 03, 2010
DeclinetoState wrote on Thursday, Dec 02 at 06:39 PM »

"t potty"

Your true colors keep shining thru Captain

"and how they care about folks and the economy"

26 weeks unemployment extended to 52 weeks extended to 99 weeks...extended to 10 years, to 20. Truly heartless.

"...unemployment meagre it may be goes back into the economy for survival (rather than these folks living under bridges and on a monthly state stipend)"

Could work out even better if everyone went on unemployment and put the money back into the economy... then it could roar. The "Marxist Free Lunch Class" was well attended that day, eh comrade?

"whereas the tax cuts go overseas with trips and secret accounts."

Your cites to follow... or just more bullshite?

"The bush tax cuts were set to expire to see how they worked with the economy..."

Whether our government raises taxes or cuts them, the historical revenue is about 19%. Why put the drag on business or personal income if it (the govt) ends up with the same amount.

Ah, I just got it... envy. Your resentment of those working to achieve.
DeclinetoState
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December 02, 2010
Well today showed the true colors of the t potty choices and how they care about folks and the economy...unemployment meagre it may be goes back into the economy for survival (rather than these folks living under bridges and on a monthly state stipend) whereas the tax cuts go overseas with trips and secret accounts. The bush tax cuts were set to expire to see how they worked with the economy..they did not work did they?
ConcernedNeighbor
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December 02, 2010
Right, Hawkeyestosee!!!!

Actually the waiting for better vet care started since Vietnam war... Walter Reed hospital was a nightmare for many vets at the time.

No more nightmares for the vets, we promised them we will take care of them once they enlisted? No?

Each minute ticks by while the politicians jabber and "favor" ideas, plans, agenda... while more cancer patients die!

The Health Care Proposal is a nightmare in the making. Many hospitals will close and people will have to travel further to receive chemotherapy.

So, no, I do not "favor" McNerney... why would he want the Vet Center to be at French Broad Camp where there are substandard levees!!!!!

Tracy is a better place for it... at Alvarez?

Good luck, you deserve the best care, too!

CN
TracyResident10
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December 02, 2010
If liberals actually cared about people then they would know that free handouts be it welfare or 99 weeks of unemployment is actually very bad for our society. Or could it be that they only care for themselves and their fellow elitist friends? I think we know the answer to that if you are honest. Obviously you liberals have not learned the lesson of this election. America has rejected your ideas. If your ideas worked then California would be the best place on earth financially and socially. California is exactly opposite of that and the liberals 100% run this state. You cannot blame anything on republican or conservative beliefs in california. You run it. But again, you liberals are not honest with your self and are just waiting for your next free handout at someone elses expense. Your ideas always fail but maybe you just need to do it right the next time?
HawkEyes2see
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December 02, 2010
Rriddle,

I think you are mistaken. I'd guess that cancer patients should have been better taken care of. Perhaps a some legislation would have been a done. But without it there is little hope for cancer patients. Even the healthcare bill was an example of poor judgement. It will ultimately be met with little or no funding. The hospitals are financally in poor health and even donations are down. So giving to cancer based research and funding is also low on the thermometer.

In addition the vets have waited four years too long for a VA facility.

Hope that helps!
HawkEyes2see
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December 02, 2010
Anyone voted in would have cared about cancer patients.

The problem is eluded to in the title of this Tracy Press article. These type of politicians have "locked" California for over four years.

WWhat we need is to unlock CA and help the economy.

ConcernedNeighbor
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December 02, 2010
I am sorry to disagree with you on everything you mentioned of McNerney... of course he is in "FAVOR" of seeing these things happen, but I would wait to sing praises after things GETS DONE. Take care of the Veterans!! Don't talk, get it done!

CN
rriddle
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December 02, 2010
Great news! as a use to be republican (just changed last week) I voted for Congressman McNerney ~ I'm so glad, he has helped our troops! He is in favor of helping cancer patients. Sounds like everyone should be in favor of these, but they are not! Check the voting record of how congress votes!

Thank you Congress McNerney and thank you to your staff! CONGRATULATIONS!!!
dcose
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December 02, 2010
LoveTCY

"A: Yes, the Democratic party did out raise the Republican party from tracable donations given to candidates and/or the Democratic party which are verifiable and in line with current elections laws."

Could you give the names of those breaking the current election laws?

"The Republican party however raised more money from private 3rd party supposedly "non profit" 501 (C)(3) groups aka "Americans united" or "Americans for prosperity" basically groups funded by business interest groups run by the right wing American Chamber of Commerce or the Libertarian Koch brothers with funnled foreign money from uhhh maybe China!"

uhhh you're so last decade thinking of Al Gore, The Clintons and Charley Trie...

"Charlie Trie, gangster, Chinese agent, and old President Clinton crony from Arkansas, is convicted of "...having raised hundreds of thousands of illegal dollars for the DNC from friends with ties to the Indonesian military and Chinese intelligence. (Chief fund-raiser for the DNC in these transactions was John Huang, personal fund-raiser for Clinton, Chinese intelligence asset, and agent for the Riady empire, a billion-dollar Chinese syndicate with ties to Chinese military and intelligence agencies.) Trie is also the genius who came up with the idea to use the Buddhist Temple as a front for Chinese money headed for the Clinton-Gore campaign coffers."

"Maria Hsia, agent of the Chinese dictatorship, "a friend and political supporter" to Gore, is convicted on five felony counts for breaking U.S. election laws, including illegally raising funds from foreign nationals to put in Gore's campaign pocket at the infamous Buddhist Temple event."

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/horowitz032700.asp

"The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct."

http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm

B: The supposed "obama removed the credit card control" you write about is the direct result of the Citizens United case ruling by the supreme court which basiclly said corporations are persons and have freedom of speech rights and can give to political groups without limit.

This was a supreme court decsicion that had nothing to do with the President. If anything the supreme court judges who voted in favor of this ruling were all right leaning republican appointed judges.

In other words Corporatist Republicans appointed Corporatist Judges to hand dowm Corporatist rulings! Ahhh gotta love that Republican Party!

Uh, Mr. Peabody... Obama Foreign Donor Credit Card Fraud... Opey's Presidential run of 2008... Citizens United ruling on Corporate Donations- 1/21/10. You said one had to do with the other... a conflict with your timeline... could you expound? Go back and read the Citizen's United decision. Gotta love those liberals who love forcing foundationless factoids on us

tp://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0124.htm

B again?"...You still haven't answered this "Name 3 things the Republican party HAS done for the working class?"...

If you look back to that post you can clearly see I answered your question though you choose to ignore it... and further, I stated no answer would be acceptable to you. Why would I continue to provide those answers knowing it will be the same outcome?

The clueless offers a clue... how trite

"... ill give you a clue it isn't extending unemployment insurance benefits to the unemployed..."

will taking needed capital away from from the job providers and the employed create more employment?

no, extending unemployment 99 weeks and beyond will not provide a job for the unemployed. However, getting State and Federal government of the job creators backs will.

"they are too busy trying to pass tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires..."

Define a "millionaire" because the last statements coming from Washington and Sacramento are "We need to raise taxes, we've cut everything we're going to." What about those now making $250,000 and less a year... will they be taxed more?

"Silly working class people they don't need Christmas as much as millionaires or billionaires need that new yacht or 4th home in the Bahamas!"

Would a new yacht or a 4th home provide:

a) less employment because the Expensive Toy Fairy conjures them from thin air?

b) the same amount of employment for reason a?

c) more employment because someone gets employed building or maintaining the new yacht or home.

Here's to you Mr. Workingman... reveling in economic ignorance, promoting class warfare and whatever social justice means, touting the Workingmancentric universe as be all...end all, extending unemployment payments to however long needed as a right (money be damned...can always print more of the stuff, Zimbabwe [231,150,888% inflation], by example, now being the richest country on earth), and finally, we're not all in this together because the wealthy only want to keep what they have... not make more of it (read deincentivise).

LovelyTracy
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December 01, 2010
DCOS

A: Yes, the Democratic party did out raise the Republican party from tracable donations given to candidates and/or the Democratic party which are verifiable and in line with current elections laws.

The Republican party however raised more money from private 3rd party supposedly "non profit" 501 (C)(3) groups aka "Americans united" or "Americans for prosperity" basically groups funded by business interest groups run by the right wing American Chamber of Commerce or the Libertarian Koch brothers with funnled foreign money from uhhh maybe China!

B: The supposed "obama removed the credit card control" you write about is the direct result of the Citizens United case ruling by the supreme court which basiclly said corporations are persons and have freedom of speech rights and can give to political groups without limit.

This was a supreme court decsicion that had nothing to do with the President. If anything the supreme court judges who voted in favor of this ruling were all right leaning republican appointed judges.

In other words Corporatist Republicans appointed Corporatist Judges to hand dowm Corporatist rulings! Ahhh gotta love that Republican Party!

B: You still haven't answered this "Name 3 things the Republican party HAS done for the working class?" Still waiting for your answer, oh and ill give you a clue it isn't extending unemployment insurance benefits to the unemployed they are too busy trying to pass tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires... Silly working class people they don't need Christmas as much as millionaires or billionaires need that new yacht or 4th home in the Bahamas!


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