The muddy future of Carnegie
by Thomas Lyons/ TP staff
Dec 15, 2009 | 5831 views | 32 32 comments | 31 31 recommendations | email to a friend | print
An off-road biker climbs along a section of Carnegie State Vehicular Recreation Area on Tuesday morning. The park remains open, though it could be closed to vehicles if conditions of a lawsuit are not met.  Glenn Moore/Tracy Press
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An Alameda County judge has ruled that a local park must close trails to off-roaders until it comes up with a plan to limit pollution that ends up in Corral Hollow Creek.

Two environmental groups have 150 days from the ruling Dec. 8 to turn the ruling over to state parks officials, who must then bar riders from using the Carnegie State Vehicular Recreation Area.

In September, the California Sportfishing Alliance and Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility sued the state, saying Carnegie had no permit from a state water board to allow pollution to flow into the creek, which is completely dry during vast stretches of the year.

The judge’s ruling has baffled state parks officials, who will fight to overturn or postpone the ruling “in order to keep this park open,” said parks spokesman Roy Stearns.

State parks officials say they’ve done everything they can to limit sediment that pours into the creek while balancing park use at the same time.

But that’s not how the environmental groups see it.

They argue motorcyclists have carved a snaking web of trails into hillsides that, during rainstorms, turn into gushing rivulets of mud that cascade into the already-polluted creek.

“The department of recreation thinks they are above the law,” said Bill Jennings, head of the Sportfishing Alliance. “Nothing is being asked of them that isn’t asked of anyone else.”

The park was created in the 1970s and has become phenomenally popular with dirt bike riders seeking adventure. More than 140,000 riders used the park last year, said park Superintendent Joe Ramos.

Parks officials admit riders contribute to sediment in Corral Hollow Creek, and they restrict crossing the creek during storms to cut what flows downstream. Today, riders were seen riding through the muddy creek bottom, which was already drying out from the weekend’s storm.

Where the heavy metals come from is a bit of a mystery, though neighbors in the watershed who surround the park undoubtedly add to the creek’s pollution problems.

There are two nearby research laboratories that test outdoor explosives, and ranchers in the area have cattle. San Francisco water officials have bored tunnels into hillsides for the pipeline that delivers water from Hetch Hetchy reservoir. Tailings from abandoned mines have been identified. Runoff from a county road is believed to add to the creek’s woes as well. And a massive brick factory once sat in the middle of the creek bed where Carnegie now is.

“What it speaks to is how complicated this issue is, and this watershed is” said Daphne Green, a spokeswoman for the state parks off-highway division.

If the judge’s ruling sticks, the park will have to come up with a plan to further limit pollution and sediment and get a permit from the State Water Quality Control Board.

Those who use and work at the park have heard rumors of a possible off-road ban, and they hate to think they could be shut out, even temporarily.

“This is my home, and it’s frustrating,” said Kevin Porter, who been riding at Carnegie since the 1970s. “Now when I ride, it’s like my last day here.”

Tony Shipman owns Motor-Mart, a business inside the park’s gates. He and his employees would be devastated by a ban on riding.

“We rely on this business,” he said. “We’re really in the dark about what’s going on here, and we’re waiting to find out.”

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slowalker
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December 23, 2009
Millions of off roaders drive through Arroyo Grande Creek in San Luis Obispo County to access the Oceano Dunes SVRA. It needs to stop. Please see our documentary series at www.safebeachanddunes.org, especially "No Way In, and No Way Out".
mikedetone
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December 18, 2009
sign this petition to keep the park open

http://www.carnegieforever.org/index.php
anonymous
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December 17, 2009
countrygirl1970
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December 17, 2009
Wow! People really need to mind their own business. Carnegie is a great place for families. It's good, clean fun. I guess if we close Carnegie, we'll have more thugs on the street and more drive-bys. Just look at what happened last night on Tracy Blvd...if we keep closing all the family things, this is what is going to continue to happen. WAKE UP ENVIRONMENTALISTS, GET A CLUE, AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. YOU HAVE WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS.
countrygirl1970
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December 17, 2009
bpw1
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December 17, 2009
If we can't ride, they can't fish! It's that simple.

How much lead has the folks in the fishing alliance added to the waterways by using lead sinkers, split shot and who knows what's in the bazillion lures they loose every year? They need to clean up their own mess and leave us out of it.

I can't believe they ban sales on youth motorcycles

but you can still buy lead split shot at Bass Pro Shops... Go figure
KenCefalo
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December 16, 2009
By the way, I don't think it's fair to blame this on the environmental community. I think whoever these people are just used that cover as a way to get what they wanted. Most of us who ride have a great passion about for the environment.
KenCefalo
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December 16, 2009
If an organization is called "Sportfishing Alliance" does it mean that it is made up of people actually interested in fishing? Because an organization is called PEER does it mean it is really made up of public employees? I would really like to know what is the motivation of these groups, and who are they.

Ken
utilitytruck
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September 03, 2012
Your comment got me interested, Ken. Because there are no fish in that stream. Very poignant question. In fact, the stream dries up for part of the year and fish cannot live in a dried up creek bed.

So, in light of that I was very puzzled who brought in the sport's fishing guys, and so I google'd it up and I found an interesting article on ABC. Here is what it said:

Neighbors upset over off-road vehicle expansion plan

"Garamendi lives next to the Carnegie State Vehicular Recreation Area. Her husband's family has been here since the 1870s. He's seen how off-road vehicles change the landscape.

"See that rut for example right there, where the trail's going up kind of below the fence line, that hasn't been used for 20 years," said John Connolly, who opposes the park expansion.

Connolly doesn't believe riders will stay on designated trails in an expanded off highway vehicle park."

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/assignment_7&id=8782172

farmer2
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December 16, 2009
The environmental community has become way too powerful over the years. They need to be slapped down. They are busy trying to shut down all of the ohv areas. They absolutely hate ohv. We need to band to gether and fight these jerks. Join the Blue Ribbon Coalition and other local groups. Let's not let them push us around any longer. They are ruining our great state.
picasso
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December 16, 2009
I can't wait for this same judge to put a stop to all recreational fishing in California.
really!!!
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December 16, 2009
Hope they figure out a solution soon.
discokevin450
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December 16, 2009
I have a eight year old son that is very sad about the possible shut down of Carnegie ....to tell you the truth I'm having a very hard time explaining it to him. I think that this is detrimental to our family sport and I hate that this is turning into a selfish politcal agenda.
picasso
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December 16, 2009
Let me see, You would rather see thousands of dirt bikers riding illegally on private and public property than at a public park where use can be monitored and contained. There are no longer funds for enough police and rangers,so a cheap and public place to ride across from a government super fund site seems perfect to me. Mr Jennings you wouldn't want all sportfishing stopped in California due to your boatmotors,riverbank trampling and harmful fishing tackle in our public waters would you. Guess what you could be next. John Gallagher
cr500Rider
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December 16, 2009
From reading the lawsuits that were filed earlier in the year, they're worried about the run-off reaching the delta. Via Google maps following the creek after it leaves Carnegie, I didn't see that the creek made it all the way to the delta. It did flow along the gravel quarries, through retention ponds, through farmers fields, etc. Of course none of those would contribute sediment to the creek.

If they're concerned with protecting the delta, they should get rid the fishing boats. I'm sure they contribute more pollutants to the delta than the sediment that flows in from Carnegie. Leaky head gasket leaking oil into the water passages, 2 strokes burning oil and exhausting directly into the delta water is ok, as it doesn't add any sediment.

I doubt the Sportfishing Alliance is going to try to stop boats in the delta though.....
deltakeep
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December 16, 2009
A few observations:

First, this is a long-standing issue.

Second, the park could have avoided this situation had they applied for and obtained mandated permits required of industry, municipalities and mom-and-pop businesses.

Third, extensive water quality monitoring established that waters entering the creek were low in sediment with virtually no heavy metals, while waters exiting the park contained prodigious quantities of sediments and metals far above water quality criteria.

fourth, given the overwhelming evidence in the case, the Judge had little alternative but to enforce the law.

And lastly, the quickest path to reopening the park to off-road activity is for Parks and Recreation to simply to comply with the law.
Sunnycaday
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December 16, 2009
This has the Connoly's written all over it. I wonder if the people who hunt for wild game on their property are being told to stop because they are also contributing to the pollution?

My husband has ridden at Carnegie for over 30 years. Our 2 boys now have a blast riding as well as myself. Dirt bike riding is a great family sport and should not be forced out.

Connoly and his wife(who thankfully was not elected mayor) need to get a life and leave ours alone. They make enough money and do not need more land for their wild game hunting business.
Sunnycaday
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December 16, 2009
sdsailer
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December 16, 2009
This is indeed a bunch of bureaucratic BS. With all that is mentioned as a potential source of pollution, eliminating the offroaders will not change a thing. Where are the motorcycle industry’s lobbyists? They got hoodwinked years back with the whole red-green sticker program and here is a chance to make some amends. As mentioned by some below, follow the litigation trail, no doubt there is a bigger agenda and it’s probably not an environmental one.
JimF01
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December 16, 2009
A travesty. This will also affect many businesses in Tracy. Any business owner who has customers come in who have a a trailer or pickup with motocross bikes and motorcycles in the back should be contacting city hall to find out what our mayor and City Council are going to do about this.

WTH do they mean, "where the heavy metals come from is a bit of a mystery". Simple enough to trace these materials up higher in the watershed and discover the source? It's a canyon, ferchrissakes?!?

The lawsuit text refers repeatedly to inadequate or missing response from the Carnegie and parks people, sounds like they need to protect their park better.

This organization PEER sounds a bit suspicious. A group of public employee attacking the same government that employs them. Drumming up business, sounds like? Kinda like glass shop employees going out at night breaking windows?
KenCefalo
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December 16, 2009
This is so sad. We need to have more recreation areas like Carnegie where people young and old can get out of the house and enjoy life. I can't even imagine why anyone would want to close down Carnegie. If they are truly activists there are probably better and more efficient ways their efforts could be spent.

Ken


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