Supervisors vote to extend their stays
by TP staff
Jul 27, 2012 | 2878 views | 41 41 comments | 4 4 recommendations | email to a friend | print
San Joaquin County voters will decide this fall whether to extend term limits for county supervisors.

By a 4-1 vote Tuesday, July 24, the supervisors sent to the Nov. 6 ballot a measure that, if passed by voters, would allow supervisors to sit for three four-year terms, rather than the two-term limit now in place.

The three-term limit, the measure states, would be for terms served in a lifetime, not just consecutively.

All four supervisors who voted in favor of the term-limit extension are either serving their second elected term or have won a second term yet to be started.

Without a term-limit extension, Frank “Larry” Rhustaller and Ken Vogel would be termed out in 2014. Carlos Villapudua and Steve Bestolarides would be termed out in 2016, after both secured a second term with a win in the most recent primary election.

Supervisor Leroy Ornellas, who represents Tracy and Mountain House and will be termed out of his seat this fall, cast the lone no vote.

He earlier made a motion to add language stating that none of the present supervisors would be eligible to run for a consecutive third term if voters passed term-limit extensions, according to the board’s clerk. That motion failed for lack of a second.

Even if the vote passed in November, Ornellas would not be eligible to run again this year, he said before Tuesday’s vote, as he did not run in the June 5 primary.

Tracy City Councilman Bob Elliott and Tracy Planning Commissioner Rhodesia Ransom are campaigning for Ornellas’ seat this fall.
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RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 03, 2012
TomBenigno,

I'd hate to be a fly on the wall when / if that happens. My guess, and its only a guess he may not support your peripheral canal idea. Because it can take away from our local farmer's water supplies.
TomBenigno
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August 03, 2012
Readers:

Missinformation again.
RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 07, 2012
No. It's not "misinformation".

You showed us your guess and I showed us my guess.

However many guesses you or I give is irrelavent. And you may want to be aware that statistics favor my guess, because the majority does not approve a peripheral canal.

It is like heart bypass surgery on an existing canal.

Instead of building two canals, for the price of two...

Why not repair the one we already have?

Has Governor Brown explained why he cannot use what we already have?

Notice: I never called him "moonbeam"

I just wonder why Californians can't get they answers they're all asking, TomBenigno.

Hope that explained it.
TomBenigno
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August 03, 2012
RHCP:

Thank you very much for the compliment, Mr. Pombo is good company to have.
RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 02, 2012
It just occurred to me. Benigno and Pombo both end with an "o". At least they had something in common.
TomBenigno
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August 02, 2012
Readers:

Some people run for office to keep things straight, in our town it's different. Let's hope that major changes come to Tracy after November, but from were I sit I see more of the same. My help to the Tracy tax payers is to just alert them of the problems to come.

I guess I am a big fool, by not exposing the problems sooner.

Thanks.
whoareyoukidding
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August 02, 2012
Yes Tom you are a Big Fool. You finally got it right
dcose
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August 02, 2012
Actually, he only got it half right.
TomBenigno
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August 02, 2012
Councilmeetingwatcher:

The mayor gets paid to lie about issues that will help special interest agendas, and one of the was the Aquafur which you mention.

You like drinking sewer water that's ok with me, maybe that's way you can't understand politics your brain has been effected?
RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 02, 2012
TomBenigno,

An aquifer is an underground layer of water-bearing permeable rock or unconsolidated materials (gravel, sand, or silt) from which groundwater can be usefully extracted using a water well. The study of water flow in aquifers and the characterization of aquifers is called hydrogeology. Related terms include aquitard,

which is a bed of low permeability along an aquifer, [1]

and aquiclude (or aquifuge), which is a solid, impermeable area underlying or overlying an aquifer. If the impermeable area overlies the aquifer pressure could cause it to become a confined aquifer.



Reference:wikipedia.com

Bird_Man
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August 02, 2012
Tom Benigno-

Are you saying here that our mayor is on the take?

-BM
RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 02, 2012
I guess we'll have to wait for TomBenigno to find out if the mayor is on the take.

But in the meantime, does this summarize what he has deduced: 'If you don't agree him then you "like drinking sewer water"'?
rosa62
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August 02, 2012
Would it be safe to say that someone who is confused about hydro-geology is an "aquitard'?
RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 03, 2012
It's an underground layer of sand, dirt, clay, maybe some rock.

In Tracy, it's probably a lot dirt, rock, clay.

whoareyoukidding
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August 02, 2012
Tom - We are still waiting to here what you have done to HELP Tracy. Also I watched the Mayor correct you on several occasions regarding the aquifers in Tracy. So you are not so bright when it comes to water issues.

As I stated before you need to stop before you make a BIGGER Fool of yourself.
RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 02, 2012
TomBenigno,

n aquifer is an underground layer of water-bearing permeable rock or unconsolidated materials (gravel, sand, or silt) from which groundwater can be usefully extracted using a water well. The study of water flow in aquifers and the characterization of aquifers is called hydrogeology. Related terms include aquitard,

which is a bed of low permeability along an aquifer, [1]

and aquiclude (or aquifuge), which is a solid, impermeable area underlying or overlying an aquifer. If the impermeable area overlies the aquifer pressure could cause it to become a confined aquifer.

Reference: wikipedia.com
TomBenigno
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August 01, 2012
Boy's :

You are getting into unchartered waters at this point. You had better leave it alone.
RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 01, 2012
TomBenigno,

The reason I did not vote for you is because I saw your opponent out there on the canals doing his research. You do realize we already have two of these canals in Tracy? This is not unchartered waters.

They shut down a canal because of environmental issues. If the governor is not willing to have a conversation about water, with the voters, I am voting NO! We need to learn to use what we have.

Sorry.

TomBenigno
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August 01, 2012
Dcose:

With you around I need to self proclaim my good deeds. Who does your work for you,surely not your employees?

As for the other question the canal or tunnel will be built like it or not. Tell it to the farmers who don't want it? The rest of the voters don't even know what the canal is for, and neither do you sir.

Enjoy your day.
whoareyoukidding
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August 01, 2012


Tom -

In case you missed my response to you.

Ornellas beat you

Water. You have no idea what you are talking about. Just to name one.

I respect a lot of farmers...not you

You attack people who don't blog also

What jobs?

Dale Cose is right about you

Read more: Tracy Press - Supervisors vote to extend their stays
dcose
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August 01, 2012
To the Benigno,

Would an undeclared political contribution of "Pombo Hay" be a "good deed"?

Enforcing "Eminent Domain" to acquire private property for public affordable housing be a "good deed"?

All your innuendo, half truths and lies... would they be examples of "good deeds"?

FYI, Wrong again Gramps, I said nothing about a canal or tunnel. Dementia or what, poor reading for comprehension skills?

If the voters don't know what the canal is for, why would they vote for a massive boondoggle?

RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 01, 2012
Here's the thing about the canal, TomBenigno. The real reason the voters do not want this is several-fold.

First, there is cost.

Second, there is environmental issues that are unresolved from the last canal they shut down. Telling the voters that those concerns don't matter will not help the governor's campaign.

I could fix the canal issue myself, by proposing a water diversion (outside the pumps to a collection pond), when delta smelt are detected in the supply line.

This is California the land of ingenuity, but the president said we couldnt even build the golden gate bridge anymore. This is why we elected a governor who knows how to sort these things out instead of wasting our tax money.

Ornley_Gumfudgen
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August 02, 2012
Was I asleep or did I miss somethang" Specifically, what "good deeds" is Tom talkin about? I admit I am gettin old an my memory ain't what it use ta be but I have been ponderin this an can't come up with any.
RedHotChilliPeppers
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August 02, 2012
Ornley_Gumfudgen,

You did. I think what he's trying to say is that he helped several Democrats get elected, by unsuccessfully running for offices, including a bid for Congress.

I really do not believe it had anything to do with the outcome, but if you happen to be a Democrat you may be saying yes he did do something good. I'm not saying that personally either way.

I just don't know how on earth he can take credit for Democrats creating California jobs, when the facts show we are losing jobs right and left.
TomBenigno
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July 31, 2012
Whoareyoukidding:

1. Right.

2.About Ornellas he lost.

3.Council meetings bring on the topic.

4.Farmers already have a bad name ask around!!!

5.I make statements about people who don't put their name out there,and attack me like you.

6.I brought hundreds of jobs to many in this town and all over the state. What have you done?

Find someone else to push trash on you can't beat me.
dcose
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July 31, 2012
The Benigno,

self proclaimed genius, admired by... himself

"P.S my votes caused a run off, that means a great deal, in todays economy."

Certainly a great deal more... additional costs. Typical senseless RINO.
RedHotChilliPeppers
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July 31, 2012
Farmers have a "bad name"?

TomBenigno,

Do you say that because the vast majority of the farmers (and voters) do not support the governor's peripheral canal?
whoareyoukidding
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July 31, 2012
Ornellas beat you

Water. You have no idea what you are talking about. Just to name one.

I respect a lot of farmers...not you

You attack people who don't blog also

What jobs?

Dale Cose is right about you
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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August 01, 2012
Wow! An I didn't have ta say a thang. Good job guys.

Been watchin ole Tom get a little uppity fer awhile now an wonder in when you guys were gonna set him straight again.

All I can attribute it ta is that it must be all this hot weather an he's gettin sort of cranky.

I'll leave it ta ya cus yer doin a fine job an I can devote my attentions elsewhare.
TomBenigno
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July 31, 2012
Chillipepper:

I'm sorry to inform you that a vast number of people voted for me. Could we consider that you are not even a voter in this area. The answer could be yes, until you disclose your name who cares!!!

P.S my votes caused a run off, that means a great deal, in todays economy.

Sorry!!
RedHotChilliPeppers
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July 31, 2012
TomBenigno,

I'm sorry, I do not want to get into a debate where you tell a voter that my vote does not count and I respond by saying yes it does and you respond by saying... oh nevermind. Let's move on.

I do have one question. If you would be kind enough to oblige. Were the candidates listed in alphabetical order, by last name? Benigno first?

Sorry, but honestly, I cannot remember.
RedHotChilliPeppers
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July 31, 2012
TomBenigno,

When the pot calls the kettle it goes.

When I see a candidate who claims to be Republican, I do not automatically vote for him or her.

That candidate has to be able to explain why they feel I should vote for them, over the other candidate.

When you ran I may have voted for someone else.

Sirry, too late for explanations now.
TomBenigno
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July 31, 2012
WhoRyoukidding:

It is really unfortunate that "has-bens like yourself" are able to post your opinions without disclosing who you are. You don't care for me, but one would bet you don't even know why.
whoareyoukidding
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July 31, 2012
Tom -

Here are a few reasons

You attack the new Admin Assistant before she works her first day in Tracy

You attack Leroy Ornellas because he won and you lost.

You speak at council meetings without knowing the facts

You give farmers a bad name

You make ridiculous statements on this blog about people you don't even know

You have never done anything productive to help the City

Does that help?
RedHotChilliPeppers
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July 30, 2012
I also thank the voters for paying attention. There are so many instances where the voters get raked over the coals.

In this case, I feel the local voters are wide awake.
Ornley_Gumfudgen
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July 30, 2012
whoareyoukidding

Many of us do on a daily basis. An thank ya fer mentionin it.
TomBenigno
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July 27, 2012
Letsbesmart:

Ornellas has already served more than two terms plus, thank God he will soon be out of office!!!
whoareyoukidding
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July 28, 2012
No Tom thank God you will NEVER be in office
behonestguys
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July 27, 2012
Hmm, what is interesting is that the 4 who voted in favor of extending term limits (i.e. Bestolarides, Villapadua, Ruhstaller and Vogel) would all benefit from it if passed in November - the one guy who voted no (i.e. Ornellas) would not. Why didn't these guys consider putting such an initiative on the ballot in 2010 to give Ornellas a shot at running again in 2012 for a third term. It was the same cast of characters then (i.e. in 2010) as now. At least that would have made it fair for all of them instead of waiting until Leroy was termed out to pass this measure. Sounds like the 5th District is still considered the red-headed step-child to the Stockton-centric Board of Supes.
AverageBri
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July 27, 2012
Gee, there's a shocker -- Bureaucrats living off the tax payers vote to keep their cushy perk-filled jobs longer.

Here's one who will be voting "NO"


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