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Written by Jennifer Wadsworth
Thursday, 31 July 2008
Tracy police officers used Craigslist.org to lure four women, one by one, to a foreclosed home, where they were arrested on suspicion of prostitution. Homeowners agreed to allow police to stage the sting at this Tahoe Circle home. Glenn Moore/Tracy Press Police arrested four women on suspicion of prostitution after luring them to a west Tracy home late Wednesday through early this morning. The women had posted online ads offering sex in the “casual encounters” section of a popular classifieds Website. Police responded to the personals, offering money in exchange for sex and asking to meet them late Wednesday night at a Tahoe Circle home. Police arranged to have the women show up one by one. Four came: Janel Manthei, 26; Brandi Arwood, 20; Lizette Rubio, 24; and Saprina Allen, 23. Each was arrested on suspicion of prostitution for allegedly agreeing to have sex for money. The women drove from various cities in San Joaquin County and the East Bay. By law, it’s illegal to accept or offer sex for money, drugs or anything of material value, according to the state penal code. Cops asked the homeowners if they could use the two-story tract home for the sting. The homeowners moved out two weeks ago and are close to losing the home to foreclosure anyway, so they agreed. Tracy police use empty homes, typically foreclosures, to meet up with people who snag the bait, Deputy Chief Rick Golphin said. “We try to use places where they’d normally go,” he said. “If we asked them to come to a hotel or something, they’re used to that. They’d know.” Neighbors said the sting was quiet and nobody knew what was going on that night. Next-door neighbor Steve Palefsky watched the event unfold from his yard and said he noticed that someone had hung sheets over the windows at the back of the house. “I didn’t know what was happening,” he said today. “There were just a bunch of people making phone calls.” Golphin said Tracy police plan to conduct similar stings in the future and at some point target the customers, too. He said it’s nothing new, and that police have caught many alleged prostitutes in the past through late-night meet-ups like the one this week. • To reach Tracy Press reporter Jennifer Wadsworth, call 830-4225 or e-mail her at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it Set as favorite Bookmark Email This Hits: 3806 Trackback(0) TrackBack URI for this entry Comments (106) Subscribe to this comment's feed Show/Hide comments ... written by what? , July 31, 2008 TRN, Prostitution is not just for downtown and the courthouse! It could happen in your neighborhood...Its about paying customers, not the location! Now what is your rebutal? ... written by maybenotdumBcommenT , July 31, 2008 Your right what? And at the same time I was surprised for a second by this. I got a hold of myself and said ,well of course this can happen. People use these houses to do their drugs in them. They wreck the places. I wonder how funny this is to TRN and the other crowd in the police blotters. This story could easily been minimized by the Tracy Press. And then the pack would make fun of it without regard of the neighbors feelings, the kids playing in front of their houses watching the john's going in and out, and God knows what else. ... written by DO IT AGAIN , July 31, 2008 “I didn’t know what was happening,” he said today. “There were just a bunch of police making phone calls.” PLS in the future qoute me as I speak, I said I heared a bunch of PEOPLE not police making phone calls! ... written by amy , July 31, 2008 While it is generous of the owners to loan their house to the PD, I sure hope they will be okay after they return to their home? How will their safety be ensured after printing picture of the house and the address? Retalitation by "Johns"? -amy ... written by fortheunderdog , July 31, 2008 Hi amy, The article said the family had moved out of the home about 2 weeks ago and the house is close to foreclosure. I pretty sure no damage will be done to the home by those arrested as the home is just a "front" used by the police. If anything, the prostitutes should be more worried about their court date. ... written by Former Tracyite , July 31, 2008 Their house is in foreclosure. I wonder if they had gotten themselves one of those Option Arm loans? ... written by maybenotdumBcommenT , July 31, 2008 Mistake, Not JOHN'S. I meant prostitutes. Sorry for the mistake. ... written by amy , July 31, 2008 I see, thanks, fortheunderdog!-amy ... written by Annie Snyder , July 31, 2008 I am sure the children in the neighborhood are just fine. This was not a serious issue. It was a sting operation. No real prostitution was going on there. If it happened in my neighborhood I would find it interesting. My kids and I would discuss it. If there was real sex for money going on in my neighborhood I don't know what I would do. ... written by amy , July 31, 2008 Good to know that, was concerned for a while. Thanks Annie and fortheunderdog! -amy ... written by maybenotdumBcommenT , July 31, 2008 Are you blind Annie. You said this. written by Annie Snyder , July 31, 2008 I am sure the children in the neighborhood are just fine. This was not a serious issue. It was a sting operation. No real prostitution was going on there. If it happened in my neighborhood I would find it interesting. My kids and I would discuss it. If there was real sex for money going on in my neighborhood I don't know what I would do. The article says this: The women had posted online ads offering sex in the “casual encounters” section of a popular classifieds Website. Police responded to the personals, offering money in exchange for sex and asking to meet them late Wednesday night at a Tahoe Circle home. Your mentality, AS long as it is not in my neighborhood attitude is lame. You didn't say it but you must be thinking backwards to say the neighborhood is fine. I'll let you in on a little secret. START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE FORECLOSED,(Usually empty)HOMES. The bums are sleeping and crpping in them. Shooting their drugs, leaving needles all over the place. This is a new crime wave, looking for the foreclosed homes, growing pot in them. The banks can't sell them so they are empty for months. Realty.com will give you stats on how bad Tracy's housing market is. It's a haven for the bad guys. ...* written by maybenotdumBcommenT , July 31, 2008 The sting tells you how easy these empty neighborhoods are. ... written by fortheunderdog , July 31, 2008 I think what Annie Snyder was saying was that there was no real prostitution going on at that Tahoe Cir home so the neighborhood and residents are relatively safe. The police used the home for a sting operation and used that address as their's to lure the prostitutes to that location. "The sting tells you how easy these empty neighborhoods are." Easy for what? This neighborhood is not empty. Only one home in foreclosure and that's terrible for the family that has to leave it. Your comment is lacking a logical conclusion. If anything is empty, it's your comment. ... written by LAM , July 31, 2008 This is justmy opinion, and I am probably wrong somewhere. I feel it is great to allow the police to use this foreclosed home in the future, but I do not think it is wise to photograph the home they plan to use. Not only is there a photo, but the location is included. If these prostitutes, pimps, or you name it read the paper and focus on the picture as well as address they will know to stay away from that place. ... written by SmilesandNods , July 31, 2008 It's good to know that all of your tax dollars are hard at waste. We all want to blindly follow what the law deems wright and wrong with a smile and a "serves 'em right" attitude, but does anyone realize how dumb this is? "Protect and Serve" - who exactly are the police protecting or serving with this sting? They are luring sex "crimes" to a quiet nieghborhood where there obviously wasn't even a problem in the first place - otherwise they could have just arrested some prostitutes on the corners. What the hell are they doing, then? Preventing the spread of STD's by removing prostitutes from the trade? Those that wish to pay for sex are going to do it, regardless of the risk. It's a fact that a large majority of this type of sex offender will repeat the act even after a conviction. Are they protecting the prostitutes? Persecuting maybe, but not protecting. The very fact that it is illegal makes beatings, rapes, and theft against prostitutes flourish. After all - who are they going to go to if they are hurt? The police?! No, their Pimp - who will beat the prostitute for losing money and assault the person who assaulted her. Very productive! Not to mention - did the police even ask the neighbors if they were ok with the tacky and potentially dangerous act of enticing and luring "illegal" activities into a place where their children live and play? Of course not, because law enforcement tends to be a bloated and ineffective means of upholding outdated laws and giving the illusion of public safety. ... written by SmilesandNods , July 31, 2008 You know how you really help? You legalize prostitution. You protect these woman with laws like any other business. Doing that prevents the truly horrid act of them being dragged about by pimps who abuse them constantly. You save public money by eliminating stupid police "stings" on two consenting adults who choose to pay someone for sex and receive money for sex. Not every popular moral should be a law. Just because some think prostitution is "wrong" or gross doesn't change the fact that it is everyone's right to do as they wish as long as they aren't forcing someone to participate in their act. It kills me that some woman want to sell themselves for money, but they choose to do so and we can't stop them all from that choice. Why not really respect woman, especially those that are struggling? Save some money on these wasteful "stings" and use that money to build programs and shelters for those woman who wish to change their life for the better? pax to all. ... written by maybenotdumBcommenT , July 31, 2008 ftud, How do you know there aren't more foreclosed homes there? ... written by Annie Snyder , July 31, 2008 MNDC, Like I said before, you don't know me. If the sting happened in my neighborhood I would find it interesting. If there were prostitutes operating in my neighborhood I really don't know what I would do. Anyone that I have met in that field has been pretty low key. You would not guess what they do, so there would be no reason to be upset. If there were a lot of undesirable people coming around then I would have to do something. ... written by Former Tracyite , July 31, 2008 SmilesandNods, you should tune into the police blotter tomorrow! ... written by maybenotdumBcommenT , August 01, 2008 Well I'll tell you what Annie, It was on the news this A.M. and those neighbors don't like it. Thats what matters. They don't like the idea of the police using their neighborhood for that. What else will they do? Try to lure other types of criminals? I am really surprised by how the police handled it. You must be a peach of a lady, you and your acquaintances. Altho it doesn't make sense. Shouldn't you be outraged the police lured these nice decent woman into a house and then arresting them. Yep, go along with the crowd. ... written by Tom Benigno , August 01, 2008 To whom it may concern: I thought that was campaign head quaters for the Ive's and Hite campaigns. With all those people going in and out, how is someone to know. Wow? t. b ... written by ToddB5150 , August 01, 2008 We have a serious Gang Problem in Tracy, and the Police have time to surf Craigslist for Hookers.. The Gangs are cowards, the Police are Cowards.. We don't stand a chance...!!!!! ... written by Dale Cose , August 01, 2008 written by Tom Benigno , August 01, 2008 To whom it may concern: I thought that was campaign head quaters for the Ive's and Hite campaigns. With all those people going in and out, how is someone to know. and here I was unaware you had your nose in that end too... ... written by Curb Stomp , August 01, 2008 We have a serious Gang Problem in Tracy, and the Police have time to surf Craigslist for Hookers.. The Gangs are cowards, the Police are Cowards.. We don't stand a chance...!!!!! Gang on gang violence is serious business. ... written by DO IT AGAIN , August 01, 2008 Please ALL MIGHTY REGULARS...........Keep in mind that not all of us can sit here all day and await your reply, some of us have lives that take our time doing many things not just PLAYING on the internet. With that said I'm not at a lost for words, nor am I scared. I'm just busy, that's life so I can play your games ALL DAY LONG. Also dont sit here and talk about how much I have been on here the past few days. Make a chart and mark down how many times each of us leave a comment. I can assure you I am no where close to 50 comments left on this site and compare to the millions you all have left. ... written by Annie Snyder , August 01, 2008 I saw that news piece this morning. I was cleaning, so I did not focus on it. I only saw one neighbor make a complaint. Thank you, I am a peach of a lady! I am plum sweet and berry nice. Orange you glad you get to blog with me? I don't judge most things people do. The only people I can't handle are mean people. We have all made mistakes. I do agree that the Tracy Police have more important things to do than to bust prostitutes from other towns. We have ladies in our own town that need help. Yes, I concider them getting arrested help. If even one of those ladies find the courage to change her life, then it was worth it. ... written by amy , August 01, 2008 Shouldn't you be outraged the police lured these nice decent woman into a house and then arresting them. Yep, go along with the crowd. MNDC must be a psychic? The women drove from various cities in San Joaquin County and the East Bay. By law, it’s illegal to accept or offer sex for money, drugs or anything of material value, according to the state penal code. How do you know they are NICE women, thought you were defending the police department????? -amy ... written by Annie Snyder , August 01, 2008 Amy, MNDC was commenting on my blog. I stated that I have known women in that profession in the past and that they were low key and not obvious, therefore I would not allert the police. I would not want Johns roaming my neighborhood, though. I don't think prostitutes operate from home. ... written by bla , August 01, 2008 I do think its a waste of tax payers money to operate a sting on prostitution. My opinion could be based on, I too think it should be legal but only if it has controls in place. Don't know if that is possible. And, who cares how much time people spend on these blogs. So what if they enjoy it! ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "If these prostitutes, pimps, or you name it read the paper and focus on the picture as well as address they will know to stay away from that place." I think that is the point. ... written by amy , August 01, 2008 Annie Snyder, I hear you! No problem understanding what you are saying! Thanks for your humor, too! I had to question the wisdom of Prostitution sting in the sense of priority, why not "Gang Sting" to stop the shootings in the articles, too? First things, first? Take care of the worst offenders,then go on down to lesser severity of the crime. Prostitution? Most severe crime in Tracy? I don't think so, it could be taken care of, but these women were out of town? I do worry about drive by shootings, cross fire shootings of innocent victims, retalitation shootings and so on. Bullets do travel through the homes. -amy ... written by Tom Benigno , August 01, 2008 To whom it may concern: Dale Cose yes my nose is in that too. You must be from feed the pig. I think people can read my posts, they don't need you to re-post them. t. b ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "written by Tom Benigno , August 01, 2008 To whom it may concern: I thought that was campaign head quaters for the Ive's and Hite campaigns. With all those people going in and out, how is someone to know. Wow? t. b" LOL Tom you, too, should contribute to the police blogs. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 Why ToddB5150, Your numerical add-on must be an indicative of your mental state. ... written by Justin281gt , August 01, 2008 I think ol' George Carlin summed this up the best. Why is it illegal to sell something it's perfectly legal to give away? This was a waste of time and our tax dollars. Does the Tracy PD have nothing more important to do? Do we really need to import criminals, aren't there enough in Tracy already? ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "written by DO IT AGAIN , August 01, 2008 Please ALL MIGHTY REGULARS...........Keep in mind that not all of us can sit here all day and await your reply, some of us have lives that take our time doing many things not just PLAYING on the internet. With that said I'm not at a lost for words, nor am I scared. I'm just busy, that's life so I can play your games ALL DAY LONG. Also dont sit here and talk about how much I have been on here the past few days. Make a chart and mark down how many times each of us leave a comment. I can assure you I am no where close to 50 comments left on this site and compare to the millions you all have left." BUT YOU'RE HERE AGAIN, AREN'T YOU. HYPOCRITE. ... written by Tom Benigno , August 01, 2008 To whom it may concern: I wonder if the Chamber of Commerce and the Rotary had their signs in the house, supporting economic developement. P. S. Along with you know who? t. b ... written by Justin281gt , August 01, 2008 P.S. Were any of these woman decent looking? Mabe the Trcy PD can hook me up with a date! ... written by Justin281gt , August 01, 2008 women* whoops ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "written by maybenotdumBcommenT , August 01, 2008 Well I'll tell you what Annie, It was on the news this A.M. and those neighbors don't like it. Thats what matters. They don't like the idea of the police using their neighborhood for that. What else will they do? Try to lure other types of criminals? I am really surprised by how the police handled it. You must be a peach of a lady, you and your acquaintances. Altho it doesn't make sense. Shouldn't you be outraged the police lured these nice decent woman into a house and then arresting them. Yep, go along with the crowd." 1. How do you know the neighbors don't like it? 2. I thought you liked our police department? 3. "You must be a peach of a lady, you and your acquaintances. Altho it doesn't make sense." Nothing you write makes sense. 4. "Shouldn't you be outraged the police lured these nice decent woman into a house and then arresting them." NICE DECENT LADIES WHO AUTHORED AN AD THEN WAS ARRESTED WHEN THEY WERE CALLED TO PERFORM THEIR TRADE? GO UNWAD YOUR PANTIES. OR DID YOU LEAVE THEM AT THAT HOUSE ON TAHOE CIRCLE? ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "ftud, How do you know there aren't more foreclosed homes there?" Do your own homework. Check the site you listed: Realty.com ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "written by Justin281gt , August 01, 2008 P.S. Were any of these woman decent looking? Mabe the Trcy PD can hook me up with a date!" Justin, you need to start adding comments to the police blotter. ... written by Annie Snyder , August 01, 2008 Ha-ha-ha! You guys crack me up!!!!! I am thoroughly enjoying this! I would rather have neighbors who sell sex than neighbors who sell guns. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 Oooh,Tom, looks like you hit a nerve with Dale. ... written by ToddB5150 , August 01, 2008 Why ToddB5150, Your numerical add-on must be an indicative of your mental state. Wow ! What an intuitive observation.. You must be a PHd... ... written by Dale Cose , August 01, 2008 written by Tom Benigno , August 01, 2008 ... You must be from feed the pig. What time will you require dinner? ... written by Dave Hardesty , August 01, 2008 fortheunderdog So is that what it's all about? Continuing to pick and hurling insults until you get a negative and deogatory reaction? I hope not because that is the sign of a sick mind. But that's only my oponion. Dave Hardesty ... written by Annie Snyder , August 01, 2008 written by Dave Hardesty , August 01, 2008 fortheunderdog So is that what it's all about? Continuing to pick and hurling insults until you get a negative and deogatory reaction? I hope not because that is the sign of a sick mind. But that's only my oponion. ftud, I'm cool with that. How about you? Are we all down with Dave's op-onion? I prefer people who are a little off anyway. My Mom always told me I am a conundrum. ... written by DO IT AGAIN , August 01, 2008 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA................NICE DAVE H. ... written by DO IT AGAIN , August 01, 2008 Main Entry: 2regular Function: noun Date: 15th century 1: one who is regular: a: one who is usually present or participating; especially : a long-standing regular customer HEY MCGRUFF READ ABOVE, LOOKS LIKE I DONT FIT INTO THE CLICK! LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE BORING WITH LITTLE OR NO FRIENDS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELF. IS THAT IT? SINCE YOU LIKE TO ASSUME, I WILL AS WELL... DO YOU LIKE COMING ON HERE TO BE FUNNY AND GET PEOPLE TO LAUGH AT YOUR JOKES BECAUSE IF THEY SAW YOU IN PERSON THE ONLY THING THEY WOULD LAUGH AT IS YOUR 500LB BODY? LET ME GUESS YOUR GOING TO SAY YOUR NOT 500LBS AND I DONT KNOW A THING RIGHT, AND I DONT KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! YOUR RIGHT I DONT KNOW YOU JUST AS YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ME. THAT BEING SAID YOU HAVE ASSUMED YOU KNOW ME "I.E WHAT I LOOK LIKE, WHAT STREET I LIVE ON, ECT." IN A PRIOR COMMENT YOU SAID I LIVE ON 23RD ST. AND PLAYED IT OFF THAT I SAID I DID. GO BACK AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK I SAID JUST GO DOWN THAT STREET NOT THAT I LIVED THERE. NOW IF YOU CAN PULL YOUR HAND OUT OF YOUR BEHIND LETS SEE YOU PROVE ME WRONG I DO NOT LIVE ON 23RD ST. LESSON HEAR IS DONT ASSUME AND THINK YOU KNOW ANYONE HERE YOU CAN BE TALKING TO A 16 YEAR OLD OR SOMEONE IN PRISON. ALWAYS KNOW DONT ASSUME! ... written by bla , August 01, 2008 DH, ummmm what is that aphorisms? Oh yes, its not over until its over! This is so much more entertaining then all the foolish politics and depressing news. Don't ya think? ... written by Concerned Parents , August 01, 2008 Funny stuff here! DIA-perhaps you are not on 23rd street any longer. You are indeed a 16 year old in prison... explains the spelling and grammar. ... written by DO IT AGAIN , August 01, 2008 CP REALLY A 16 YEAR OLD IN PRISON? USE YOUR BRAIN A LITTLE A THINK ABOUT THAT COMMENT FOR A SECOND, PLEASE DONT CONFUSE ME WITH YOUR 16 YEAR OLD IN MGH AND HUSBAND IN DVI! BY THE WAY WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE A MAIL ORDER BRIDE? HOW MUCH DID YOU COST? REMEMBER TO TELL THEM NOT TO DROP THE SOAP! ... written by maybenotdumBcommenT , August 01, 2008 DO IT AGAIN, thanks for watching the kids for me today, they have been unruly and nasty. I guess Annie is sure we watched the same news. Oh well. I will pacify you and say you are right little baby bo, feel better now? I've been busy today taking care of business. Sorry folks I couldn't hurl the insults back. I don't need to. ftud it was sarcasm about the prostitutes. I'm very tired but I find this funny. Thanks Tom. written by Tom Benigno , August 01, 2008 To whom it may concern: I thought that was campaign head quaters for the Ive's and Hite campaigns. With all those people going in and out, how is someone to know. Wow? t. b In all my travels today I found out something. Oh boy is it juicy. I can't tell you all yet. Kind of thought it should be in the paper but it isn't. Possible cover up? Oh, I can't wait till you all find out, wonder how long it can be kept under wraps. Dave Hardesty, did you hear anything bad happening in Tracy, say, Tuesday night? Darn if you didn't. ... written by tj5150143 , August 01, 2008 All this is great entertainment. Truly a waste of time, money, effort, and resources. Prostitute stings? Come on, men pay for it no matter if it's solicited in print or verbally on the street. Or in the club when they wants drinks, food, etc. You spend money on ladies regardless and all men are just looking to get one place even if it's for life. So, funny, my friend told me this happened right next door to her parents house. Poor people having to watch degenerates with GEDs popping some chick who can't make it regularly. They're only selling what's an easy sell. For Pete's sake it's legal in other countries and even other states! You actually get a license for it in Nevada. It's a pretty lucrative business too. Those rich legit pimps don't beat their women too. Hahaha, this is all so funny to me... ... written by Tom Benigno , August 01, 2008 To whom it may concer: I have a million of them? t. b ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "written by ToddB5150 , August 01, 2008 Why ToddB5150, Your numerical add-on must be an indicative of your mental state. Wow ! What an intuitive observation.. You must be a PHd..." No, but pretty close! ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "written by Dave Hardesty , August 01, 2008 fortheunderdog So is that what it's all about? Continuing to pick and hurling insults until you get a negative and deogatory reaction? I hope not because that is the sign of a sick mind. But that's only my oponion. Dave Hardesty" Dave, your oponion, whoops...that's opinion, means squat to me. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 Hi Annie, I think Dave may be right. I think I'm 5149 1/2. Not quite up there with ToddB5150. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "written by DO IT AGAIN , August 01, 2008 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA................NICE DAVE H." Hey DO IT AGAIN, It's not fair to laugh at your daddy's jokes. ... written by kchapman , August 01, 2008 Should be legalized,zoned and taxed and 401k'd Women will sell themselves till the end of time. that's all ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "Main Entry: 2regular Function: noun Date: 15th century 1: one who is regular: a: one who is usually present or participating; especially : a long-standing regular customer" "HEY MCGRUFF READ ABOVE, LOOKS LIKE I DONT FIT INTO THE CLICK!" You dummy. You're here leaving text aren't you? "LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE BORING WITH LITTLE OR NO FRIENDS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELF. IS THAT IT?" You tell me. You seem to wander back to these blogs. "SINCE YOU LIKE TO ASSUME, I WILL AS WELL... DO YOU LIKE COMING ON HERE TO BE FUNNY AND GET PEOPLE TO LAUGH AT YOUR JOKES BECAUSE IF THEY SAW YOU IN PERSON THE ONLY THING THEY WOULD LAUGH AT IS YOUR 500LB BODY?" I already used the poundage joke, you're going to have to find something else. Be original next time. You're boring. See above paragraph that you wrote for boring definition. "LET ME GUESS YOUR GOING TO SAY YOUR NOT 500LBS AND I DONT KNOW A THING RIGHT" You're right, you don't know a thing. "AND I DONT KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!" You're right again, you don't know what you're talking about. "YOUR RIGHT I DONT KNOW YOU JUST AS YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ME. THAT BEING SAID YOU HAVE ASSUMED YOU KNOW ME "I.E WHAT I LOOK LIKE, WHAT STREET I LIVE ON, ECT." Well dummy, you alluded to living on 23rd St wearing all red. Are you going to change your answer now? ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "IN A PRIOR COMMENT YOU SAID I LIVE ON 23RD ST." You idiot, you alluded to living on 23rd St. "AND PLAYED IT OFF THAT I SAID I DID. GO BACK AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK I SAID JUST GO DOWN THAT STREET NOT THAT I LIVED THERE." See, you just said you played it off. I think you're getting desparate. "NOW IF YOU CAN PULL YOUR HAND OUT OF YOUR BEHIND" I just did and guess what came out?..................DOO IT AGAIN! "LETS SEE YOU PROVE ME WRONG I DO NOT LIVE ON 23RD ST." Hey, if you don't live on 23rd St, just say so in the beginning and don't lead others to believe you do. Sheesh. "LESSON HEAR IS DONT ASSUME AND THINK YOU KNOW ANYONE HERE YOU CAN BE TALKING TO A 16 YEAR OLD OR SOMEONE IN PRISON. ALWAYS KNOW DONT ASSUME!" There is no lesson here, just mediocre talk from someone I don't know. Glad you're back to give your comments. BTW...did you pick up a pamphlet on your way out? ... written by fortheunderdog , August 01, 2008 "compare to the millions you all have left." Now I wouldn't say "millions". Maybe a couple hundred. ... written by Annie Snyder , August 01, 2008 MNDC wrote: thanks for watching the kids for me today, they have been unruly and nasty. I guess Annie is sure we watched the same news. Oh well. I will pacify you and say you are right little baby bo, feel better now? I've been busy today taking care of business. Sorry folks I couldn't hurl the insults back. I don't need to. ftud it was sarcasm about the prostitutes. Dear Mom, I left because Dad came home drunk again. He was really mean and scary. Love, Bo ... written by GTkitkats , August 01, 2008 Can dis pls stp nao? Sent frm mai sexxay iPhone 3G ... written by Annie Snyder , August 02, 2008 GTkitkats, Excellent text skills! ... written by GTkitkats , August 02, 2008 Just trying to break the monotony, Annie ... written by SmilesandNods , August 02, 2008 It's sad that a perfectly good discussion about a pertinent political issue always has to be degraded into insults flung like monkey sht at one another. If you really want to know why our society is one of mindless consumer-slaves look no farther than the microcosm of these pages. I believe in free speech - but free speech is made to protect those that actually have something to say, not those that talk and type all day and don't really say anything. Can we keep the childish insults to a minimum and try to stay relatively on subject? I'm just sayin'. Pax to all. ...* written by amy , August 02, 2008 Stated my concerns, what is yours besides scolding the bloggers? Think the priority is off, should the PD place their time on more serious issues like crime? Gang activities? Thanks. -amy ... written by SmilesandNods , August 02, 2008 My concerns and comments were stated very clearly. But the off subject insults is something I have no problem "scolding" others about. If you weren't playing insult hot potato then you have nothing to take offense to. As a matter of fact Amy - your concern about the Police priorities is exactly the same comment I posted that started this whole discussion way at the tippy top of this page. So we share some similar views, don't know what your fussing about. Well actually I do. Some people don't like to have their actions or even the actions of others called into question. it's this whole free speech thing that us American are spoiled with. But free speech is protected for people to use so they can actually say something - not just insult others with differing opinions. Pax to all. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 02, 2008 "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Not to make this comment an insult but I do not see where it says insults cannot be used in freedom of speech. BTW, if you have a differing opinion how is that insulting? ... written by towncryer , August 03, 2008 I think the comments by the posters who fear all of the nefarious pimps and prostitutes is comical. Who knows what has driven these women to make the choice to debase themselves in this way. Maybe they are trying to keep a roof over their childrens heads? I do not think that when they were little girls they dreamed of growing up and letting strangers defile their bodies. Many of these women are trying to support themselves as single parents. The person the prostitute hurts the most is HERSELF. The reason many in that trade do drugs is to be able to put up with ALL it entails! Do I think that there are more moral ways to support oneself and ones family? Heck yes. I also agree that it should be against the law so that perhaps that will keep some people from doing it. I guess they should even have to pay the price with possible arrest but why not focus on drying up their customer base? WHY not focus on the JOHNS?!!! Maybe because some politicans, law enforcement and lawmakers are johns themselves? If there are prostitutes in our neighborhoods then there must be just as many JOHNS! Many of these are married men with sexual addictions who spend big their families $$$$ on "HO'S"! They risk bringing those diseases home to wives and the consequences can destroy families and innocent children! These guys are not desperatly trying to make ends meet and nobody is holding a gun to their head making them seek out these women! Just my opinion.... ... written by towncryer , August 03, 2008 OPS typo spend big their families $$$$ = spend their families $$$$ ... written by maybenotdumBcommenT , August 03, 2008 I think these young women feel desperate and stuck and there is no other way to earn a living. Was it lack of education, Parents not bringing them up right. The law says it is wrong. It is a stupid law. If they legalized it a place could put way out somewhere where kids can't see it and are you all worried about the hubby taking of for a little fun? who know. Kids now a days know all about these things. ... written by SmilesandNods , August 03, 2008 towncryer you are correct - any free speech is free speech. I should adjust my statement in that I was speaking to the spirit of the law. The constitution was created by a new government who's people had been silence for centuries. The point of the constitution was to give the people a voice and allow them, through free speech to influence their government and society. Insults are free speech but it's not the free speech that has any substance whatsoever. Insults are free speech but they are often the pointless free speech of the short-tempered and illogical. And it is my right of free speech to tell them that. BTW I only had a problem with the insults, not any differing oppinions. Pax to all. ... written by SmilesandNods , August 03, 2008 Oh sorry I was speaking to fortheunderdog. I do have something for towncryer to chew on however. Making something illegal is not always the best way to combat it. Need proof - look at the biggest failed law in our country's history - PROHIBITION. Pax to all. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 03, 2008 SmilesandNods, "BTW I only had a problem with the insults, not any differing oppinions." Point taken. ... written by towncryer , August 03, 2008 Actually I do agree that the way they handle prostitution in Nevada seems better for health reasons, taxation reasons, etc. I still stand on the fact that the JOHNS are the guiltier party here! If the police can't find any other more dangerous criminals to fight then I say get the johns!!! oh yeah and the pimps! but leave the prostitutes alone as they are punishing theirselves. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 03, 2008 towncryer, I don't think Calif will ever legalize prostitution but your thoughts about the way it's run in Nevada makes sense. The girls there have to have monthly testing, the brothels are checked by the state, and they have rules they have to abide by. I don't know if I agree that the john's are the guiltier party. If it weren't for prostitutes there would be no john's. I would have to say it's 50/50. Unless you want to count their pimps then it goes up to 70/30. ... written by towncryer , August 04, 2008 fortheunderdog, I respect your opinion and agree that both are guilty in regards to the existing laws. In my opinion I feel that most prostitutes resort to the trade as a LAST resort due to any number of factors including; providing for self and children with limited or no education, low self-esteem due to past sexual/physical abuse or neglect, coming from a terrible childhood, etc. Most are not married and betraying a spouse and family by using family funds to satisfy their sexual desires and risking infecting a spouse with a STD (herpes, ghonerea, clamydia, genital warts, or AIDS)and potentially leaving their children without parents as a consequence of AIDS. The JOHNS on the other hand CHOOSE not to keep it in their pants and rather than form a relationship with a person to get sex, they Choose to pay a desperate person to defile their body and have the "right" to walk away and feel like they are OK guys! When we look at the situation in 3rd world countries with sweat shops do we blame the workers or the people that pay them? Of course the workers take whatever pittance the owners will pay ~ They are desperate! And I have to agree that the PIMPS are the VERY worst! Take care and it is such a pleasure to banter with someone who maintains respect on this board! ... written by DO IT AGAIN , August 04, 2008 FTUD, Why didnt you copy the whole comment I wrote? What did you prove? You would have typed that all up. I didnt see a thing that backed up your story, and you were a cop in town? Just goes to show you why this towns crime has blow though the roof. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 04, 2008 towncryer, There was a special on "48 Hours" some time ago that spotlighted persons working as prostitutes. Female and male. Of the female prostitutes, just alittle under 50% had high school education and a small % of the other "under 50%" had some college or were attending college. I can see where you're coming from when you say that some of them are doing it as a last resort, ie: supporting family, limited or no education or any number of the other reasons you gave. Some make good money. That too is a reason for them to do what they're doing. If john's are married they are doing their spouse a disservice by spending family funds, risking contracting STD's, or breaking up their family. I feel they are equally responsible for keeping prostitute's prostitutes. If it were not for the john's, prostitutes would have no customers. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 04, 2008 DO IT AGAIN, Can you copy/paste your comment you're talking. I'm a lot more rested after the weekend and would like to answer your questions. BTW....I did not work for the city of Tracy. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 04, 2008 DIA, I checked the comments above and saw 2 that you may be referring to. Is it this one? written by DO IT AGAIN , August 01, 2008 Please ALL MIGHTY REGULARS...........Keep in mind that not all of us can sit here all day and await your reply, some of us have lives that take our time doing many things not just PLAYING on the internet. With that said I'm not at a lost for words, nor am I scared. I'm just busy, that's life so I can play your games ALL DAY LONG. I'LL REPLY IN CAPS SO IT'S EASIER TO DISTINGUISH. YES, I CONSIDER MYSELF A "REGULAR" BUT I DO NOT RESPOND TO ALL BLOGS. I, TOO, AM NOT AT A LOSS FOR WORDS NOR AM I SCARED. BEING RETIRED, I TOO AM BUSY. I FIND TIME TO LOG ON TO THE WEBSITE WHEN TIME PERMITS. Also dont sit here and talk about how much I have been on here the past few days. Make a chart and mark down how many times each of us leave a comment. I can assure you I am no where close to 50 comments left on this site and compare to the millions you all have left." I AGREE THAT YOU AREN'T ON AS MUCH AS SOME OF THE REST OF US ARE BUT YOU ARE ON. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE REST OF US WRITE "MILLIONS" OF COMMENTS AND I WAS BEING HUMOROUS SAYING THAT IT COULDN'T BE MILLIONS, BUT MAYBE HUNDREDS. ... written by fortheunderdog , August 04, 2008 DIA, I think this may be another comment you're referring to. "written by DO IT AGAIN , August 01, 2008 Main Entry: 2regular Function: noun Date: 15th century 1: one who is regular: a: one who is usually present or participating; especially : a long-standing regular customer HEY MCGRUFF READ ABOVE, LOOKS LIKE I DONT FIT INTO THE CLICK! LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE BORING WITH LITTLE OR NO FRIENDS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELF. IS THAT IT? SINCE YOU LIKE TO ASSUME, I WILL AS WELL... DO YOU LIKE COMING ON HERE TO BE FUNNY AND GET PEOPLE TO LAUGH AT YOUR JOKES BECAUSE IF THEY SAW YOU IN PERSON THE ONLY THING THEY WOULD LAUGH AT IS YOUR 500LB BODY? LET ME GUESS YOUR GOING TO SAY YOUR NOT 500LBS AND I DONT KNOW A THING RIGHT, AND I DONT KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! YOUR RIGHT I DONT KNOW YOU JUST AS YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ME. THAT BEING SAID YOU HAVE ASSUMED YOU KNOW ME "I.E WHAT I LOOK LIKE, WHAT STREET I LIVE ON, ECT." IN A PRIOR COMMENT YOU SAID I LIVE ON 23RD ST. AND PLAYED IT OFF THAT I SAID I DID. GO BACK AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK I SAID JUST GO DOWN THAT STREET NOT THAT I LIVED THERE. NOW IF YOU CAN PULL YOUR HAND OUT OF YOUR BEHIND LETS SEE YOU PROVE ME WRONG I DO NOT LIVE ON 23RD ST. LESSON HEAR IS DONT ASSUME AND THINK YOU KNOW ANYONE HERE YOU CAN BE TALKING TO A 16 YEAR OLD OR SOMEONE IN PRISON. ALWAYS KNOW DONT ASSUME!" I believe I responded to this one, see a few comments above. I occasionally use humor in my responses. If you'd like me to highlight the humorous writing just let me know and I'll put quotes around them for you next time. ... written by DO IT AGAIN , August 04, 2008 You know what too many comments to look at. Just call it nill for the time being. ... written by DO IT AGAIN , August 04, 2008 I got to say most of these girls are doing all this for the money and dont not have a family to take care of! But they to make Big $ in a short amount of time and thats all they want, plus they may think in time they will find a sugar daddy to take care of them after a while.They know they can get a job at Hooters if they want to make a legal income and still show off their goods. If these single moms made a better choice in a man or to just say NO they would not be in this spot. So why open up gain and risk it? Do get me wrong Im not saying every single mom is like that, but lets face there is a lot that have part themselfs where their are at these time and place. For thoses that are doing it the right way keep up what your doing, your teaching your kids how to do things the right way. Remember they are not all single moms doing the most of them dont any have kids, they are just money hoes! ... written by towncryer , August 04, 2008 DAI, spoken like a true JOHN... ... written by GTkitkats , August 04, 2008 IMMA FIRE TEH LAZER TO THIS TOPIC!!!!! Also, click on the link for something relating to this topic. It's a story pertaining to this topic that aired a few years back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU ... written by towncryer , August 04, 2008 the link you provided goes to a music video.... ... written by GTkitkats , August 04, 2008 towncryer, You don't know what that is? It's a running internet meme. Look it up ... written by towncryer , August 04, 2008 I guess I am behind the times...LOL! ... written by GTkitkats , August 04, 2008 Just to let you know, that was a Rick Roll. Look it up and you'll understand the reason behind it. ... written by towncryer , August 04, 2008 I have officially been "schooled". Thanks GTkitkats! ... written by fortheunderdog , August 04, 2008 GTkitkats, I've just been Rickrolled. Great! ... written by missyE , August 04, 2008 Maybe all the criticizers of the police here can make a list of the acceptable crimes for the police to go over. We certainly wouldn't want them wasting their time trying to arrest people for crimes that you 'experts' think unworthy. Seriously. It's pathetic. I find it interesting that the top 5 popular stories in the Tracy Press list are all police oriented. Isn't there anything else worth commenting on?!! ... written by Justin281gt , August 07, 2008 MissyE, For starters, prostitution is a victimless crime. These women were not being forced to engage in sex for money. Can you tell me why it should be illegal to sell something it's perfectly legal to give away? An orgasm is hardly the worst thing you could give someone. Secondly, These woman were not from Tracy. Our police force imported them from other East Bay areas. If you want to talk about pathetic, start there! ... written by towncryer , August 07, 2008 I disagree that it is victimless .... If the John has a family then they are victims but I totally agree that importing criminals seems senseless when Tracy has plenty of our own criminals to catch. If any Tracy police officers are reading .. I'd love it if you guys did a sting to catch child predators like on Dateline! I'd bet that would get a standing ovation from a lot of Tracy residents. ... written by Justin281gt , August 07, 2008 Towncryer, I assume your post is referring to infidelity and so I guess I can agree that, in a way, there could be an innocent victim, but at the same time financial irresponsibility can crush a family just as quickly as infidelity. Should we outlaw credit cards? ... written by towncryer , August 08, 2008 Yes infidelity, and unprotected infidelity can lead to std's including AIDS which is worse than bankruptcy through credit cards. ... written by Justin281gt , August 08, 2008 towncryer, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. There is an inherent danger in almost all of the pleasures of life (driving a car, playing football, etc.) It is up to the individual to be responsible enough to take the necessary precautions for that activity. Sex is a beautiful thing and if two consenting adults choose, of their own free will, to do so for the exchange of currency that should be no one's business but their own. That's just my opinion. Take care! ... written by towncryer , August 08, 2008 You too ! I have no problem with sex between consenting SINGLE adults. If you read my prior post I think Nevada may have the answer as it addresses both health and taxation issues. Cheers! ... written by towncryer , August 08, 2008 opps or consenting married adults ... written by Justin281gt , August 08, 2008 towncryer, I totally agree with you on the marraige issue. That is part of what I mean with the "responsibility" thing. If you choose to make a lifelong commitment to someone then you should honor that by staying faithful to your spouse. As for the single folks, have at it! ... written by towncryer , August 08, 2008 Justin281gt, may I say that it is so pleasant to have a civil conversation with someone on this forum that respects others opinions and does not resort to name calling and trashing of people because they have a different opinion! Take care! This content has been locked. You can no longer post any comment. You must be logged in to a comment. Please register if you do not have an account yet.
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