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| Benigno takes aim at supervisor seat |
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| Written by Jon Mendelson / Tracy Press / | |
| Thursday, 13 March 2008 | |
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District 5 Supervisor Leroy Ornellas will defend his seat from a familiar challenger.
His opponent on the June 3 ballot is District 5 Supervisor Leroy Ornellas, a Tracy dairy farmer and incumbent who ran unopposed in the 2004 election. Benigno has previously campaigned for the 17th Assembly District, Tracy mayor, 11th Congressional District and even governor. All those efforts have fallen short. But Benigno, who was once an elected member of the San Joaquin County Republican Central Committee, hopes that keeping in the public eye will boost his chances this year. "I think they’re pretty good. I’ve got some name recognition," he said, adding that he considers himself an independent voter. "I think there’s an opportunity for anybody to get elected if they work hard enough." Benigno said via a press release that he will campaign on an economic platform focused on bringing jobs to San Joaquin County and easing the pressure of a "deep recession" that has the county jobless rate at 10 percent and has seen thousands of foreclosures, though he was vague on details. He also said that government accountability will be a big theme of the race. "I want transparent government," he said. "Transparency means you have to have open doors to see what’s going on, and we’re not doing that." But Benigno contends he shouldn’t have to face Ornellas on the ballot at all. He claims the incumbent should not be allowed to run for another term of office because of the county’s Measure A, a law voters passed in 1998 that limits supervisors to two terms in office. Ornellas was originally elected to the 5th District in November 2002, when he beat Lynn Bedford, who was appointed to serve out the remaining term of Supervisor Robert Cabral, who died in office. Ornellas himself said that his term-limit status was a concern for some time. "It was an issue that was always in the back of my mind after I won the election to my first full term," he said. A legal opinion written by County Counsel Dave Wooten and delivered to the San Joaquin County Registrar of Voters in July 2007 came down on the side of the incumbent: "It is our opinion that Measure A restricts members of the San Joaquin County Board of Supervisors to two full four-year terms in office. Service of a partial term by appointment or election does not count as one of the two full four-year terms. Therefore, it is our conclusion that Supervisor Ornellas is eligible to run for office in the June 2008 primary…" Ornellas pointed to the precedent set by a member of the Lincoln Unified School District Board who was elected to a second four-year term after originally coming to the board to serve a partial term. The Lincoln board operates under a term-limit statute modeled after the county’s Measure A. Wooten also consulted the arguments in favor of the term-limits initiative that appeared on the 1998 ballot to try to capture Measure A’s intent before making a decision. Benigno disagrees with the Wooten’s opinion and believes a ruling on the term-limits issue should be made on the state level. "Quite a few people have read (the opinion) and feel as I do that it’s really ambiguous and leads us into an area where the county counsel makes change," Benigno said. "It should be a state decision-making process." But the supervisor said he was "very comfortable" with his eligibility and is looking forward to running for and serving his last term, when he intends to see through several projects already in the works. Ornellas says the big issues he’s working on include the expansion of San Joaquin County Jail, taking the final steps to bring a Veterans Administration clinic to French Camp and helping the many businesses that want to relocate to the county to navigate a maze of permits and politics. Benigno, though, says it’s time to elect new blood to the board. "We have messes going on in the board of supervisors," he said. "I think I can make a change." • Tracy Press intern Julia Robertson contributed to this report.
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 written by nightvision , March 13, 2008
Benigno disagrees with the Wooten’s opinion and believes a ruling on the term-limits issue should be made on the state level.
A perfect example of the lack of leadership Tom would display at the County Government level...if he doesn't understand something he will ask the state what to do. written by nightvision , March 13, 2008
Tom would be happy to let the state overrule something his "hypothetical" constituents voted for and passed.
written by nightvision , March 13, 2008
You would think the reporter would have asked Tom to elaborate on the "messes going on in the board of supervisors"...this and the comment about "transparency" infers that the five elected officials are involved in some kind of collusion...I believe everything is public record...Tom should request whatever documents he needs to prove something fishy is abound.
 written by Jim Freeman , March 13, 2008
TomB never clearly articulated or elaborated on his position on anything when he was running for Tracy mayor, so why start now? Look up his old comments on Tracy Press articles to gain insight into who Tom Benigno really is.
written by nightvision , March 13, 2008
Well if Tom knows about something improper going on at the county, as a taxpayer would like to know. Or is Tom blowing smoke, at which point someone should check Tom's smoke for substance.
 written by RL , March 13, 2008
Welcome aboard Tommy.
It's too easy to be critical, It's harder to share your positive vision on an bright horizon. Please share.........  written by Google the Yahoos , March 14, 2008
The county? That's not like a mayoral position or something?
Big job for us small farm potatoes: Better do your homework on both these important people: See what folks are saying at yahoo or google: http://www.yahoo.com http://www.google.com tracypress tom benigno tracypress Leroy Ornallas  written by Banana Republic , March 14, 2008 Looks like he has big important friends too? tracypress mr banana  written by Monkey see monkey do , March 14, 2008
Run for mayor!!!
Run tommy run!!! Just don't slip on a banana peel, or something!!!   written by Whole BUNCH of them ape-suits running for office , March 14, 2008
Lots of fun here people!
But is this an election for the county zoo supervisor??? I think bananas are over-rated. Monkeys like them! Good luck to the whole bunch of them! LOL!!!   written by Youre not the boss of me now... , March 14, 2008 Who's he think he is? "the boss" or something? / /  written by googler , March 14, 2008
http://www.google.com/search?n...tnG=Search
written by tom benigno , September 16, 2007 Christy: Look to the sky my dear. You must get the money behind you to run for office, written by tom benigno , October 07, 2007 To have all these programs available to let people have ownership with a down payment is dumb... most are not even citizens of America. Their ability to become citizens should the first prerequisite, then to hold down a job should be the be the other. written by tom benigno , October 03, 2007 Please everyone stop the personal attacks on an honorable man Like Ron Paul who has done nothing wrong and has the qualifications to be president. He is a constitutionalist and that is what we need in the white house, to correct the wrongs that Clinton and the Bush's have done to the White House. To bring America back to all the people of America. written by tom benigno , October 05, 2007 You need to start supporting what all of the people want. Bring our boy's home, that's real support. No more lies for profit. Benigno written by tom benigno , October 06, 2007 Some of us will never even be able to get elected to local dog catchers. That will be the legacy of the Bush's to even cannibalize other fine members of the Republican party that once was. Benigno  written by Steve Reshakis , March 14, 2008
Tom, can you please name one of the "Messes" going on in the Board of Supervisors?
and Be specific.  written by Ubbo Coty , March 14, 2008
I don't know where to start with this one, but I'll try with this one:
Mr Benigno wrote this one year ago. This demostates why Mr Benigno should not be elected to any office. Its all public information, still in the archives of the Tracy Press. 02 March 2007 to be exact. "The U.S. troops fighting the Iraq war joined the reserves to get an education and extra money. They happened to be at the wrong place and time. They did volunteer, but that does not give the warmongers the right to waste lives for cheap oil. For Hardesty to state that I�m against those who work at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is wrong. I am against the waste of our troops and tax dollars." Interesting stuff here Mr Benigno. At least now Mr Ornellas has an opponent. written by Ubbo Coty , March 14, 2008
How can you secure a vote from the vets when you insult them Mr Benigno?
 written by Dale Cose , March 14, 2008 Tom, I swear to you I did not put all these people up to writing these things about you. How are things? written by Ubbo Coty , March 15, 2008
Oh come on, its election time!! You know people are going to go dig dirt up!! Does Mr Benigno honestly think that all of the name calling and insulting will suddenly disappear just because he got a second lease on life and wants to try to win an election before check out time? The problem Tom, is you burned too many bridges behind you. Call it a day and let the young ones have at it.
 written by bob BananaRama , March 15, 2008
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peel @way the yellow skin and see if it is so sweet !nside? want change? vote ornella$  written by friendly neighborhood spiderman , March 15, 2008 http://tracypress.com/content/view/11345/2242/ written by bob blinker , September 23, 2007 last night i had this dream, a horrible, horrible dream full of dying children and panicked adults. please dont read further if you have children. this makes me feel sick. ives' face purple-red, blue shirt and tie sodden with a child's blood, broken body in one arm, screaming for help, beating his own head, tearing his hair, flattened soccer ball at his feet. tolbert scorched and tounge-tied, muscle and bone exposed, arms broken, hanging askew, wordlessly mouthing help them help them help them. tucker standing in a pool of blood, children laying motionless, blackened shredded dress, bloodied face peeling away, head flopping from side to side, as if to say no,no,no this cant be. abercrombie, sunburned face black with dirt and soot, broken glasses, pumping furiously with torn hands at a young boy's chest while firefighters peel him away. hobbs leans against a car carelessly flipped about, paint scorched, arms folded with head bowed, crying, silently sobbing. far away a crater jets 200 feet, a tongue of orange-blue flame, charred, smoking bodies laying in a radius around it, little striped purple soccer written by friendly neighborhood spiderman , March 15, 2008 shirts smoldering. pg&e crews rush in light blue trucks, drive cautiously towards the disaster, radioing for more instructions, shielding themselves from the heat of the blaze while a grassfire spreads. we see pombo on a dappled mare, much farther away, cowboy hat tipped and polished boots in silver stirrups, neatly trimmed mustash scowling at the scene below. he looks disgusted. "didnt i tell them not to do it?" whispers to himself, alone. more sirens in the distance as the water from many large hoses begins to shower the debris and bodies. sweaty firefighters crawl rapidly forward, checking each tiny body for life. news crews set up cameras by humming trucks, their beautiful hair mussed by the pulsing wind, yelling over the harsh whistling pf the jet of flame into microphones, only the silent cameras listening.  written by Secret Ingredients , March 15, 2008
I went to Mc Donalds and asked to speak to the boss.
He told me that the place was mc clean. With a sigh of relief I asked, mr. can I get a banana to go. written by Steve Reshakis , March 15, 2008
Who's running this blog? Daffy Duck?
when Tom B. is in an Article, the level of sanity just runs down the drain....that Guy brings out the Nutty comments like a picnic attracts Ants. Blinker's sick Dream is revealing.. all the way to Secret's MacDonalds bannana request. If Tom gets elected, Tracy will have to issue straight jackets at City Councill meetings.  written by Sam Macel , March 15, 2008
Steve, is Tom running for City Council? You don't even understand the difference between a city councilman and a supervisor.
Ubbo, that isn't an insult on troops. His comments are true for a percentage of the troops he is referring to. The only problem I can see is that it is a generalization, and so maybe he could have qualified his comments a bit better. Most debates involve someone telling the other person that they are making a generalization that is not true, that is the only error he made there. Out of all of the screwed up comments he has posted on these forums, I think you deserve an F- for finding dirt. I would never vote for you for any position after seeing your lack of intelligence. And if you ever do run for office, I'll send out a few direct mailings with every stupid half-baked comment you've made on these forums and elsewhere. As for the Mr. Banana discussions. Those were not Tom, but likely someone getting his opinion on what to write before writing it. Tom's level of grammer did not match those postings. written by Dale Cose , March 15, 2008
By Jake Armstrong
Record Staff Writer January 23, 2007 6:00 AM TRACY - Voters won't have Tom Benigno to kick around anymore. After four failed campaigns for state, federal and local offices, a gubernatorial bid that never got off the ground and an unsuccessful try for a Tracy City Council appointment in the past seven years, the farmer-turned-perpetual political candidate says he no longer will seek elected office. What began with a run for the 17th Assembly District seat in 2000 to counter a state law allowing farmers markets to set up in the streets quickly grew into a quixotic quest that netted Benigno a total of just 16,000 votes four elections later. After being passed over for appointment to a vacant seat on the Tracy City Council in December, Benigno called it quits. "I burned myself out," the 71-year-old Tracy resident said. Ornellas to defend seat for first time Tracy resident Thomas Benigno enters District 5 supervisorial race By Mike Martinez, STAFF WRITER Article Created: 03/11/2008 02:36:18 AM PDT TRACY — For the first time since winning the seat in 2002, San Joaquin County District 5 Supervisor Leroy Ornellas has an opponent in his bid for re-election. In a 2007 newspaper article, Benigno allegedly hung up his ballot, but that's not the case, the candidate said Monday. "I didn't say that," he said. "I think that was wishful thinking on the part of a few people. You have to continue to do things when you're in politics. It's like a wave or tsunami that comes and goes. When it comes back, watch out. You never quit." Tom, this articles wrote themselves. Its not me  written by The Yellow Journalist , March 15, 2008
Ok, so what's going on here is that some banana wants to run against Ornellas.
We in Tracy know about the ranting on the TP website. As other posters have mentioned you can just google or yahoo "tracypress tom benigno". But here is where it get's interesting. This story isn't just about some colorful banana. It is also about Larry. Larry hasn't had his name out there for a few elections. He needs name recognition. Some voters just vote for the name they can recall. Sadly, but yes it's true. Anyway, if Benigno's name is not tarnished after all the rant and the failed campaigns and Ornellas doesn't get his name out there he could lose. However, you have to ask yourself if you believe that would ever happen. Could it? We'll just have to wait and stay tuned. I guess this means no more Citizens Voice? Either way may the best man win. Good luck Ornellas! if you can keep it going then go for it! Good luck Benigno! You still have something to contribute??? Don't you? You do, right? I hope you have a plan. Don't you? Do you? Anyone home?  written by Farmer Phil , March 16, 2008
Supervisor Ornellas has represented the 5th district very well has goals as stated in the article and is also trying to bring a regional park to Tracy. He has my vote and support and deserves your's as well.
written by Ubbo Coty , March 16, 2008
Mr Sam Macel, Go ahead and republish any "half-baked" comments I made IF I ever run for an office. Bring it on! I'll stand by every comment I ever made defending The War on Terrorism, terrorists, our freedoms and the insulting Mr Benigno has dished out towards me. I URGE you to research or read what that person has written about me and then ask yourself why can't he take it if he can dish it out! He is a public figure, I'll go back and reprint every negative and ignorant thing he ever wrote. I probably don't need too because his reputation will beat me to it. Your opinion is that he didn't insult the troops, and thats fine its your opinion. I can respect your opinion without challenging character, you (Mr Macel) on the other hand, seem to have difficulty in achieving that goal.
written by Ubbo Coty , March 16, 2008
http://tracypress.com/content/view/8642/2/
Here is more from the past. Its all public information now. I'd recommend reading the article first and then ALL of the comments. Cheers! written by Leroy Supporter , March 16, 2008
Larry is the man with the plan.
here it is... http://tracypress.com/content/view/13759/2244/ Wetlands in Tracy - what a wonderful idea Leroy! That would even generate revenue for the city of Tracy, too. People would come to the town of Tracy to visit the wetlands and then stop to get a bite to eat. Thanks Supervisor Ornellas!!! Way to go !!! We like what you're doing!!! Mr. Leroy Ornellas for San Joaquin County Supervisor!  written by A Real Conservative (Like Leroy Ornellas!) , March 16, 2008
Tom Benigno is a Benedict Arnold.This nutcase helped took out Richard Pombo,a longtime conservative Republican Congressman and helped the far-left lying tree huggers and RINOs vote in a wind power propeller head commie pinko Jerry McDonkey from the bay area.Thanks to him conservatives do not have any national representation in Tracy or this part of the county.Do not trust or listen to this man.He is insane.
 written by jourmamatom , March 16, 2008
Yeah.Tom was sleeping with the enemy.Go Leroy.No Benigno.
 written by Benigno4dogcatcher , March 16, 2008
Benigno is a democrat.He just won't admit it.Like Arnold.Republican in name only.A RINO.
 written by Kerberos , March 16, 2008
Leroy,
I really liked your article outlining the idea for a Wetland at the Holly location. http://tracypress.com/content/view/13759/2244/ In fact, I also drove out there last weekend. INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS: -The old stink from the Holly Sugar factory is gone. -There were ducks sitting in the water treatment area. -Its all gone, all cleaned up now. -Does anyone know when the sugar-cut was removed? -Does anyone know when the odor was last noticed? -Great location for a sports park in Tracy? -I hope some in the county think so too!!! One more thing... Without the odor from Holly Sugar... When I went to the nearby driving range it was a pleasant experience. That got me thinking... A Wetlands! A Sports-Park! This all smells like a great idea! Thanks Supervisor Ornellas!!! http://www.tracysportspark.com written by Sam Macel , March 16, 2008
Ubbo,
You just did challenge my character by your indirect comments. Who are you to challenge anyone's character because they don't fit your intolerant narrow view of the world? There are people who join the guard for exactly the reasons why Benigno stated. There are people who join the guard for those reasons plus if America is attacked they want to be prepared to help defend it. There are people who join the guard and who would do it for free. There are people who probably have scores of other reasons for joining the guard. Tom's comments on these forums are shocking, and I would never vote for him because of those comments, but the one you are latching onto is pure politics and suggests that you want to spin anything you can to inflict maximum damage on someone you don't like. Be honest, this is personal for you, you dislike him, he made it personal. If Tom wins in November it will either be because Leroy didn't try to win, or for the same reasons that Tucker keeps getting re-elected: people know the name, but nothing about the person. At this point I think this is the best chance Tom has of winning an election. Why don't you run against Tom and Leroy? written by Sam Macel , March 16, 2008
Ubbo,
By reprinting those comments about Tom helping take out Pombo, that makes Tom a traitor? You are mentally disturbed, no wonder Tom made it personal. Politicans like Pombo have done more damage to this country's future that any terrorist has. I know, your right-win intolerant view of the world says that anyone who waves the flag and says they are christians, and most importantly does everything possible to destroy our country's future, is a conservative republican. You guys are warped. I once called myself a conservative republican when that meant being fiscally responsible, having a strong military, and helping businesses thrive. Now I call the people who call themselves conservative republicans as "corrupt republicans", looters. Today's corrupt republicans are about looting America's future, destroying America's military thru decades of deficit spending. These irresponsible self-centered republicans have put us over $9 trillion in debt, and now Arnold is doing the same thing to the State of California. 5% of that is $450 billion a year. Today as a country we have $450 billion less a year to build a stronger military because of the looters known as conservative republicans. I know that isn't completely accurate because of the money games we've been playing in looting social security to pay for our deficits. written by Sam Macel , March 16, 2008
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The irresponsible 1998 tax change that gives homeowners a $500,000 tax free profit on their homes is what drove this incredibly damaging increase in new home prices: this is a complete disaster that is likely the beginning of the economic collapse of our country. Who put thru that irresponsible tax change that created the current mess we are in? Pombo and the Pombo conservative republicans, and most importantly the voters who put them in office such as yourself. Who failed to curb the lending abuses until the housing market collapsed, the conservative republicans. The federal government is now freaking out because they finally understand how dire our situation is. This is really really really bad, and sadly it has been predicated for years. It personally shows me that the people in Washington really don't understand what is happening in our country. written by Sam Macel , March 16, 2008
Ubbo,
Given you are posting links, here is a link that shows your values and the damage that you've done to this country by your votes. http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ How is that being fiscally responsible? How is that about having a strong military? How is that about loving America? How is that about loving our children? That debt is 99% due to the corrupt republicans. written by Sam Macel - posting error (correction) , March 16, 2008
I owe Ubbo an apology. I confused the "..." at the top of the postings.
My above comments are directed to "A Real Conservative (Like Leroy Ornellas!)" instead of "Ubbo". It would be nice if we had an edit feature on these postings, but at the end of the day, it was my error. written by Sam Macel - posting error (correction) , March 16, 2008
Meaning, Ubbo didn't say what I was responding to, it was "A Real Conservative (Like Leroy Ornellas!)" who I was responding to.
Again, my sincere apology to Ubbo for the error.  written by amy , March 16, 2008
I saw egrets standing around at Holly site, but no water yet? At least I didn't see any water on my drive to see the place.
Why don't we take a survey of the staff and students at North School about the odor and when was the last time they noticed it? On my researches the new treatment for waste treatment is to treat the waste treatment inside the plant with "bullrush", explained on the sportspark website: http://www.tracysportspark.com before releasing it to wetlands, about 98 percent of the odor was removed before the remaining 2 non-odor percent is taken care of by the wetlands. I was looking at the land and could see place for where the bike rental shop and picnic area could be. Maybe even new addition like Japanese Garden next to the wetlands? So many possibilities, so promising for the city of Tracy? written by amy , March 16, 2008
We need candidates with vision for the future not vision for further bashings.
written by Sam Macel - let's throw Leroy out of office , March 16, 2008
"Rhino like tom",
You finally convinced me that this Leroy bozo is just like Pombo and needs to be defeated. America doesn't need yet another Pombo-like brainless parasite in local office, and given who supports him, that likely is true. At the end of the day I will vote for Tom before I'll vote for anyone that you support. What we don't need in America are more self-centered corrupt republicans aka the so-called "conservative republicans" destroying America. Will somebody place enter this race who is electable? How about one of the losers from the 2006 Tracy City Council race? Will someone please do a Dave Hardesty FBI-like investigation on Leroy and post the results here, or better yet do a direct mailing with the results the week before the absentee ballots are mailed. Leroy needs to go. Given we have two republicans splitting the republican votes, how about we get a democrat to run for this seat? You will be surprised how easy it is get on the ballot. written by Sam Macel - Leroy must go!!! , March 16, 2008
Amy,
I've enjoyed your posts. What sort of a vision do you think they should have? Should they continue to have grand visions that further bury us in debt? What do you think of these potential points? 1) have a strong military 2) get America out of debt within 20 years. Have a plan, and each year make the tough budget decisions to get us to the 20 year goal in 20 years 3) aggressively build America's competitiveness in the world 3) aggressively protect America's borders 4) save social security so that we have a minimum social net for our fellow countrymen 5) undo the trillions of dollars in new spending that Bush has enacted to get republicans reelected 6) protect U.S. jobs 7) have a national plan for fighting the economic war  rollback changes in corporate laws that are driving U.S. businesses to move to other countries anything else? comments?  written by Dave Hardesty , March 16, 2008
Sam Macel, or who ever you choose to be.
"Will someone please do a Dave Hardesty FBI-like investigation on Leroy and post the results here," I always laugh when I read something like this. Why? For all the hoopla that was generated by Councilwoman Tucker's alleged attempts to conceal public record, it strikes me odd how anyone would the have the audacity to complain about anyone actually going and looking through public records. No FBI-type of investigation, just going down to the county and reading all the public records, which is the right of any citizen, or at least what it seems to be the rights that everyone gets so worked up over. So you might want to look at yourself a little more seriously before you speak out about what someone has done in the past as an independent citizen of our community. As a completely private citizen, am I really that much of a threat to you and your cause? Wow! And all along I didn't think that I was much of a threat to anyone. written by Dave Hardesty , March 16, 2008
Sam cont.
With respect to Tom. You won't be seeing Citizens Voice for awhile as he asked the city to stop running the show so as not to run afoul of Federal Campaign laws. I suppose he somehow knew that I would be checking into that. OOPS! I forgot, I am not supposed to look into things like that am I? I will say one thing about a lot of the political pandering I see going on in the City as of late. At least I can honestly say in public that I live here and not live under the mass delusions that seem prevalent in these forums when selecting which "community member" or "resident" that I want to listen to and have any faith in. You see I actually live in Tracy, unlike many who live in Manteca and other surrounding communities outside of the sphere of influence that comprises the City of Tracy. You might want to look into those people as well to determine what their motives of self-interest might be. Just a thought, you are free to believe anything that you want to believe for what ever reason that seems to be justified to you. But you don’t really do your cause justice when you claim you don’t like those who use character assassination and yet are guilty of doing the same against those you disagree with. Dave Hardesty  written by Rhino like tom , March 16, 2008
Sam,
Think about what you just wrote. > Someone you don't even know helped you vote for tom? > Assuming someone else has wifes and children. > Writing a lot of words about how lovely toms lack of vision is Here is an assumption for you. I took it right out of one of the banana's posts. "Paid?"  written by Rhinos like tom , March 16, 2008
Tom is no stranger to the public (and posting on the internet)? Right? Perhaps he can do the "Citizen's Voice" on youtube.com, or something, so we can all continue to watch it? Would that be a violation of campaign laws?
Sam, can you help him with the legalities here? Who knows, he may appreciate it? How about it tom? Let's hear the "Citizen's Voice"?  written by Independant Democrat's against Celeste , March 16, 2008
Is it really that easy to get on the ballot? Currently, I am considering running against Celeste Garamendi. Hoping to split that vote too? Is it really that easy?
Perhaps you could run against Tom and I can run against Celeste? written by Sam Macel, March 16, 2008  written by IMHO08 , March 16, 2008
Some folk really have too much time on their hands
Supervisor Ornellas must be LHAO right about now. IMHO  written by Leroy for Supervisor , March 17, 2008
I agree with that one. LOL!
Thanks for all the supporters! written by Sam Macel , March 17, 2008
Rhinos like tom, what does "Paid?" mean? Thanks for providing the feedback on what I said.
IMHO08, you are right. written by Rhinos like tom , March 17, 2008
Sam,
Feedback? I didn't provide any feedback for you. I simply made a suggestion about youtube.com. I thought you could help Tom. I must have misunderstood your qualifications though. But, now I know that you are not Tom. He is smarter than than to attempt ad hominem???  written by maybenotdumBcommenT , March 17, 2008
Now I know why mr bananas quit writing his weird and insulting statements that usually didn't make sence. He backed off to fun for office. What a fake. You created a mess Tom. How you going to clean it up?
written by IMHO08 , March 17, 2008
Sam
TY. PLEASE don't tell The Czar I sometimes make sense. Hate to ruin a good reputation. IMHO written by Ubbo Coty , March 17, 2008
to Sam Macel : I understand. No worries, and thank you for the politeness.
 written by mr bananas , March 20, 2008
The saga continues, Len Bedford is the one LHAO about now.
m. b  written by mr bananadine , April 05, 2008
Ooh Kaaaaay!
And, Mr Bananadine is laughing his arse off too??? mbd written by Ubbo Coty , April 08, 2008
Wheres Tom been hiding all this time? Time won't heal this wound my friend.
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