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Time to upgrade Channel 26 E-mail
Written by Dave Hardesty / For the Tracy Press /   
Saturday, 08 December 2007

 

Town Crier Dave Hardesty explains the need to make improvements on the city of Tracy's public-access cable outlet.


Thirteen years ago, Wes Huffman and I embarked on a mission to expand the use of cable public-access Channel 21, now Comcast cable Channel 26.

Originally, the feed was in Clover Middle School and was primarily used by Fred Medina, who taught there.

Without funding, the channel was underutilized and waned in public support. Thus, it only filled the need for providing information for people who had students attending Clover.

The problem was exacerbated because the equipment used was consumer-quality, not commercial-quality.

Desiring to provide timely and accurate information to the residents of Tracy, Huffman and I formulated a plan whereby the city of Tracy could position itself to take advantage of emerging video technologies with adequate funding.

First, we relocated the cable feed from Clover to a closet in Tracy Community Center. This facilitated better access to the channel and eliminated its exclusive use by the school, which shut down during summer vacations.

Eventually, using personal consumer-quality video equipment provided by enthusiasts Bob Miller and Thomas Cunningham, we managed to put together a public-access channel more closely fitting the definition of what such a channel should be.

Through time, and a lot of patience from the City Council, we managed a tape-delay rebroadcast of a council meeting. After a considerable amount of tweaking, tinkering and purchase of additional equipment, we managed to put together a system where live broadcasts of City Council meetings could be made and rebroadcasts of those meetings could take place throughout the weeks until the next live broadcast.

Initially, these broadcasts were of poor quality, and we received a considerable number of complaints from the public, despite the lack of adequate funding to create and sustain such an undertaking.

Still cramped for space, the council allowed us to relocate to a small area in the Parks and Community Services building, formerly the Tracy Police Department jail.

There, the station limped along without much funding until the time for the renegotiation of the Cable Franchise Agreement between the city and the cable service provider, Comcast.

As a part of that agreement, the revenue stream necessary to operate, manage and enhance the channel was created. Reclassified as a public education and government channel, or PEG channel, the city could finally embark on a mission to seriously improve the quality of its broadcasts.

Instead of using consumer-grade equipment, new professional-grade equipment was purchased, and the quality of the station’s product improved dramatically.

Today, the modulation equipment at the channel head is old and incapable of reproducing commercial-quality video for distribution over the cable system.

The cable company has been upgrading its system, however, and shortly a digital fiber-optic feed will be available, thus correcting a long-standing problem encountered with the existing equipment.

With new professional cameras, a new small video production sound stage, new professional video-editing equipment and a new video system for the recording of public meetings in the new City Hall, the city’s next logical step is to expand the distribution of the its video product using the Internet.

To accomplish this, I recommend engaging a service provider that deals with live and indexed on-demand video services, such as can be seen by viewing http://elkgrove.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=3, Elk Grove’s city Web page; or http://stockton.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=4, the Web page for the city of Stockton.

With an initial investment of about $20,000 and a re-occurring expense of roughly $10,000 per year, money already available via the funding from the Cable Franchise Agreement and defrayed costs incurred by having city-paid employees do the job, the city of will be positioned to join cities like San Francisco, San Carlos, Palo Alto, Brentwood and Sacramento, offering residents live and on-demand streaming Internet video.

Some of the funding generated by the Cable Franchise Agreement might be misused. Under the agreement, the city money derived from it is to be used to support PEG programming and not to obtain video equipment for use by others, subsidize duplication costs of city-originated video for citizen use or the production costs for video not aired on the channel.

I recommend the creation of a city video services department to encompass not only the PEG program and broadcast requirements of Channel 26, but also to facilitate the management and capture of funds from other departmental budgets set aside for the creation of their non-public video products.

 Dave Hardesty, a satellite communications engineer, is among a select group of local residents rotating their columns in the Sunday Tracy Press.

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written by bob blinker , December 08, 2007
written by Forward Thinker , December 08, 2007
Tracy City Council and Tracy Parks Commission

Special Meeting Minutes 11 May 1, 2003

"Commissioner Hardesty moved to recommend that the City Council proceed with negotiations with the Department of the Interior to secure the Schulte Road property for the development of this facility. Commissioner Crandall seconded the motion. Voice vote found all in favor; passed and so ordered.

Mayor Pro Tem Ives motioned to authorize staff to submit an application to the Department of the Interior to acquire surplus property for a public park and recreational use and designate the City Manager as the person authorized to apply for the property on behalf of the City, and to authorize staff to proceed to move this project forward as discussed tonight. Council Member Tolbert seconded the motion. Voice vote found all in favor; passed and so ordered."

This is who and how we got here.

Dave and Brent - please explain NATURAL GAS PIPELINE EXPLOSIONS to the kids.

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written by Dave Evans , December 08, 2007
Hardesty, have you driven by Schwartz Park lately? The roller skate rink is now a pond. That problem existed when the park was built and delivered to the city. The city knew about the problem before delivery, and so why don't you invest your time doing your job as a Parks Commission rather than showing the world what a complete creep you are.

By the way, your MC job at the Schwartz park dedication was bordering on putting us all to sleep. I'm sure your friends will be more polite. If there is a next time, can you step aside and let someone who positively reflects the community be the MC.
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written by Dave Evans , December 08, 2007
Bob, I didn't know that until I read

"Sports park is near-guarantee"

http://tracypress.com/content/view/12577/2244/

wow.
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written by FYI , December 08, 2007
"Town Crier Dave Hardesty"

won't we all be crying if the pipeline explodes?

let's see if Channel 26 can cover it

here's a preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWC5FMjHv8


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written by mr bananas , December 08, 2007
This is one we need to watch.




m. b
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written by Ubbo Coty , December 08, 2007
Why do people have to focus on negative stuff when someone is trying improve something? At least the man (Mr Hardesty) is trying to improve a service, rather than sit around and listen to people complain. If any of you have a better plan, please bring it forward. Seriously folks, we need to work together on projects like these, not find fault with eveyone.
Dave, will they ever reach a point when the service can be broadcast via satellite service? I have DISHNETWORK but we dont get the see the public channel
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written by Forward Thinker , December 09, 2007
Ubbo,

Because when he himself disparages people on these pages and even boasts about his personal mission to investigate Celeste Garamendi at the County Recorder he becomes fair game. Especially when he is a public official (Parks Commisioner) that is reponsible for one of the worst decisions ever.

The City of Tracy needs to create a webcast of their meetings and make them available on their website to broaden public access. But don't hold your breath, their focus is hindering and discouraging public access and participation.
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written by amy , December 09, 2007
I have sent them e-mails, called their offices, no answers! Website would be great.


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written by Get with it , December 09, 2007
Cable is so last century, as DirecTv and Dish have proven their superiority over consumer television. You need to figure out how to use the web to post video.
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written by mr bananas , December 09, 2007
ForwardThinker has it right. Dave thinks he is working for the FBI. He is a fraud to even look into peoples personal lives without proper credentials. Tom had mentioned that he was asking some pretty personal things about him on the blog.
Tom said he asked Bob Matthews about it and Hardesty writings and Bob said don't worry about him he doesn't matter. Maybe he didn't matter but his line of questioning did. Tom said as a candidate it was his responsibility to answer question from the voters.
For future reference to the citizens out there don't answer any question that Hardesty asks he may use the answers against you.
My take on the issue is why is the Tracy Press allowing him to do that on their nickel.

m. b
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written by Ubbo Coty , December 09, 2007
Well itsn't it true that a publical official's record is public? That anyone can have access to it without acting like a FBI agent? Just because someone doe research before they vote for someone doesn't make them a fraud. You don't need special credentials to research someones public record.
Ask ANYONE who has ever run for puplic office before. Right, M.B.?
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written by Dave Evans , December 09, 2007
I always thought people calling Hardesty a fraud sounded wrong, but after Hardesty's behavior over the past month I know that he is a fraud.

I feel betrayed and sickened that I ever looked forward to anything he ever wrote.

Now that I know his true colors, I have reframed my view of him.

Between Hardesty and Ives, over the past 18 months politics in Tracy has degenerated into what typically repulses voters and potential candidates.
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written by Ubbo Coty , December 09, 2007
I think it is too easy for some people to sit back and arm chair quarter-back everything that goes wrong.
The people who are elected or appointed to any public office should be lauded for their efforts not critized, because at least THEY step up and try to make things better. It is not always easy to make eveyone happy.if our elected and appointed officials did not do what they did, who would?
My point is this: Name calling and finger pointing don't solve the problem. If you have a better idea, then step into the ring, but if you don't, don't add to the problem with name calling and finger pointing.
Some cities don't have what we have with regards to public channels, most don't have the people with the knowledge.
Tracy has a lot of potential in its residents. We need to tap into that resource and be positive rather than negative. Especially now with the real estate market.
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written by Dave Evans , December 09, 2007
Arm chair quarterback. Give me a break Ubbo, that is a pathetic response.

We should critize our public officials for what they do wrong, as we should give them positive feedback when they do something well. That is called accountability.

Hardesty is a public official who has done an aweful job. He has time to do his FBI work on everything except when it comes to investigating how his friends and the city does business.

Hardesty is a fraud.

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written by Me , December 09, 2007
This is great that the Tracy Press gives Dave an opportunity to write his own column. If you remember, just a little while ago he would open up his piehole on the blogs of just about every story out there, mostly to tell everyone that their opinion doesn't count, but his does. He finally went away when people made fun of him, or that he couldn't control other people from using the blog name "Dave Hardesty", even through he was just full of himself with empty threats of criminal or civil prosecution.
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written by d , December 09, 2007
Dave Hardesty and Brent Ives are the problem!

This is another example of Dave Hardesty promoting himself. We need to increase and improve the city of Tracys lack of open government. Not spend tax dollars on antique equipment for Dave to play on!
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written by amy , December 09, 2007
Lots of newcomers are not aware of this corruptions among the city officials, with exception of Irene Sundberg who consistently stood by her principle. They need to be informed before the next election. The biggest contributor put out lots of advertising, so colorful, all flash and bang... we sure got the bang, alright! So disappointed in the work performance of the city council. Having website, digital TV shows would keep things honest? Think about it.
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written by Brian Barringer , December 09, 2007

With an initial investment of about $20,000 and a re-occurring expense of roughly $10,000 per year, money already available via the funding from the Cable Franchise Agreement and defrayed costs incurred by having city-paid employees do the job, the city of will be positioned to join cities like San Francisco, San Carlos, Palo Alto, Brentwood and Sacramento, offering residents live and on-demand streaming Internet video.



The frugal way to do it is to buy a high quality digital video camera with upgraded mem, a tri-pod, maybe a second camera (if you want to get fancy), get some simple video editing software (also fancy), have dave o volenteer rotate the camra on the tri-pod during the meeting, then upload to hosting site, then post hyperlink to city of tracy website.

Its not the best quality it could be put the point is to get the meetings broadcasted, the best and most cost effective way would be through internet and to forget about putting it on cable, cable is old school.

also there could be a archive, and people all over the world could tune in..

If we were going to do a public access channel we should do something that would be progressive and ahead of its time, using digital video and the internet we could set up something that will not be out of date in 5 years.

Brian
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written by dave™ , December 09, 2007
You guys sure are mean. I mean I am just doing my duty. Can't you hear God talking to me? You might think it's you he's talking to. Nope. He's talking to me.

If you hear something else, that's not God. Maybe your wife, but not God.

God told me to go ahead and trust PG&E. Trust them. They are rich. They must be better than us because God has rewarded them with so much. Look at what God has given you. They're better. They are on T.V.
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written by amy , December 09, 2007
Truth, is that accusation... nope
Facts, is that accusation... nope
Information.... is that accusation... nope
Warning... is that accusation....nope

To defend these corruptions would mean you are either ignorant or in the same bed with them. Be sure you know what law's side you want to be on.

To remain silent, ..... until... the ... explosion which the new channel 26 just might cover?
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written by Dave Evans , December 09, 2007
Ubbo,

I would be more than happy to invest time being a Parks Commissioner. I surely could do a better job than Dave Hardesty does at FBI investigating the shoddy design and construction of our city parks.

And so Ubbo, when do I get the job?

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written by Ubbo Coty , December 09, 2007
Dave, Apply for it. I did.
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written by mr bananas , December 09, 2007
Dave B. The city allowed Bob Miller along with the Community Access board to try and modify the system by spending more than a half million dollars on a digital system. The old system was good enough for what the city needs.
VHF tapes are still being used by most of the professional systems around. The members of the city who allowed these people to spend this kind money on this upgrade were foolish and irresponsible. As we can see only a few have benefited from the upgrade.
I talked to Tom Benigno, host founder of Citizen's Voice. He said he was forced to pay out of pocket money to have a member of the community access channel to put his tapes through his digital system. Just to get his show on to satisfy the Tracy community board of directors such as Miller, Huffman, Hardesty, Sundberg, Tucker,and Zane Johnston. Others on board who know the wrongs that were done, should all resign.

It's a sad day when these public employees force there will on citizens who pay for the community programming and the services provided. We would like to know their motive.

m. b
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written by Ubbo Coty , December 09, 2007
Everything aside, the idea presented is a good I think. That was what the article was written for. Think about it for a few minutes. If there was such a city department created, the city might be able reach more people and educate its residents on the events happening. All around, its not a bad idea at all. I personally would view the public channel, but it doesn't reach homes with satellite service. This might be something to be considered. Not everyone subscribes to cable.
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written by d , December 09, 2007
Bad idea promoted by Dave, who wants a department created and controlled by Dave.(paid by us) Just call it Dave TV!
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written by dave™ , December 09, 2007

Just give me my DTV!
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written by MST3K , December 09, 2007
Why can't they use Youtube to put up the video?
It's free/ widely available/ and city could sell dvd's of the meetings if anyone wants to purchase one.
Good idea no?
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written by k.l.vosburg , December 09, 2007
Buck-up mates!
Walnut Creek, that's right! Contra Costa County; Had it's own (TV) station: Beginning over thirty years ago.

It's major coverage was Womens' Softball League!
Expand your technology and expand your mind.
Or not...

How is it costing YOU! (the consumer)?
More money?
Isn't that what Dave is trying to point out?

Yeah, yeah, so we're NOT exactly similar ideologosts?

Honestly, I had too re-read the entire (media) vedio "up-grade" (x3). Just too make sure I wasn't bored into a
demagraphical post 1960's - something-or-other, post Norman Lear, All in the Famly's not your Father's boggie board ephemeral confidence, suggestion that somehow Tracy, CA.; and it's grandiose production improvisationalists will circumnavigate or extracate itself.

Sorry, but I really don't pay close attention.
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written by mr bananas , December 10, 2007
Mr. Vosburg, Sir your the guy who was asking all the question during the great debate. You must have an opinion on this issue.


m. b
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written by amy , December 10, 2007
Just had a thought, maybe the online-campus can give Dave Hardesty advice on how to upgrade it? Perhaps he can call around and check into it since it is his project.
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written by LeRoyGoodOlBoy , December 10, 2007
bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla--bla--bla-bal-bla-bla-bla-bla--bla--bla-bla--bla--bla--bla--bla--bla--bla--bla--bla--bla--bla-bla--bla--bla--bla--bla--bla--bla-bla--bla--bla--bla--bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla!!!!!!!! I NEED TO EAT MY PRUNES NOW. smilies/tongue.gif
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written by mr bananas , December 10, 2007
Excuse me who's project? The Campus of Mountain House is not the idea of dingbat. It the idea of those people who want a college every other mile, like gas stations. You had better call Tom on this one.


m. b
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written by amy , December 10, 2007
"Thirteen years ago, Wes Huffman and I embarked on a mission to expand the use of cable public-access Channel 21, now Comcast cable Channel 26."

I assumed he was looking for ways to improve understanding and communication between the city council and the citizen. That would make things more honest?


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written by Brian B , December 10, 2007
Why can't they use Youtube to put up the video?
It's free/ widely available/ and city could sell dvd's of the meetings if anyone wants to purchase one.
Good idea no?


This is the solution to me.......

b
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written by mr bananas , December 10, 2007
Amy you must be a sleeper, you where asking questions like a new person in town. Now you tell us you were here 13 years ago, working with Wes Huffman on building the community channel. I have never heard Wes talk about anyone named Amy. Sorry just wondering.


m. b
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written by amy , December 10, 2007
The quoted by Dave Hardesty paragraph was cut pasted and copied from the article above. I didn't write that.




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written by amy , December 10, 2007
"Thirteen years ago, Wes Huffman and I embarked on a mission to expand the use of cable public-access Channel 21, now Comcast cable Channel 26." That was his opening line.
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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
All.

Well it’s nice to know the Hate Dave Hardesty fan club is alive and well. I was so moved my your individual comments I decided to address each of them individually. Certainly you wouldn’t get any public official to do that. But as a private citizen, like you, I feel you deserve a response from me personally. You won’t get that from the people who use made up names either. As such they have no accountability for anything they print so we are all most likely better off anyway. Well, here it goes, as of 5:45 PM December 10th.

Bob blinker

Nice attempt to change the topic of discussion to your favorite mantra.

Dave Evans

You are more than welcome to apply for the position. Go for it, I am sure you can do a good job. Ubbo applied and so can you.

FYI

In the unfortunate event the pipeline should explode, all be it highly unlikely, yes we will all be crying.

Ubbo

It will be a long time before Tracy is large enough to where it could afford a satellite feed, that’s why I am suggesting using the Internet which seems to be more available to people that Cable or Satellite reception.

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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
Forward Thinker

Please explain how me promoting the idea of webcasting meetings and making them available is hindering and discouraging public access and participation. And I am sorry if you believe that I have somehow done something wrong or illegal by reviewing public record. You may want to consider your position when you post public records where I have made a comment. Oh, that’s right, freedom of speech only belongs to you, right?

Amy

Called who? The whole plan is to expand the website and its features so you can more easily acquire the information you are looking for. Is that a bad thing?

Get with it

Exactly, that is what the article I wrote is all about. If you think it’s a good idea please support it.

Mr bananas

“Tom said as a candidate it was his responsibility to answer question from the voters.” Tom is and was the only candidate, I have never run or sought to run for public office and never intend to in this state. Tom’s biggest problem, at the time, was he had a difficult time saying many things without insulting others in the process. But that’s all past history and one you can’t seem to get over. Why don’t you write your own articles to the Press. Call Jack about it and he can fit you in with the other “contributors” to the article. It’s done on a rotational basis and I am sure Jack can use more material.

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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
Dave Evans
For the life of me, my behavior over the past month, escapes me. Can you be specific? I certainly don’t want to behave badly.

Ubbo

Well at least you seem to understand the concept.

Dave Evans

So it’s wrong of any person, public official or not, to view public records in an attempt to understand the entire problem? Please tell me how you would go about gaining your information? When the City Counsel interviews you for a commission position you might want to have your answer ready.

Also, and assuming your moniker is true, you really should be careful who you call a fraud if you don’t have the evidence to back it up. I have no intention of suing you for liable, unlike my friend TB who has threatened that on numerous occasions.

Me

They give me the same opportunity as they would give you if you approached them. In point of fact, I didn’t approach them, they approached me.

D

Have no fear, I don’t play on the equipment, antique or otherwise. Please, if you can, elaborate how anything on this topic inhibits Tracy’s open government. The idea is to provide more information to the public not less; and, doing that at a cost substantially less than what it is currently costing the taxpayer.

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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
Amy

“Having website, digital TV shows would keep things honest? Think about it.” I did, which is exactly why I wrote the article.

Brian Barringer

It’s pretty obvious to me you have not seen what we use to have versus what has been accomplished today. It’s also plain to see many people have absolutely no idea how the station is financed.

You really ought to contact the city and ask them for a tour of the facility and have them show you what is available, as compared to what was once available that was privately financed by volunteers.

dave™

Nice try.

Amy

Truth, facts, information, warning? Honestly I haven’t seen much of that here in the comment section.

Dave Evans

First you have to apply. Go to City Hall and ask for an application. Hopefully you will get the job if you get all the way through the interview process.

Ubbo

And I am pleased to hear that you did.

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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
mr bananas

First, there is no Tracy community board of directors as you have named. If there is I am not a member of it.
Second, the money that was used to upgrade the channel did not come from city provided monies and came from a different source all together. You like facts so much so please get your facts straight.
Third, the editing job accomplished by Thomas Cunningham was performed on Thomas’ equipment as City policy wisely prevents private citizens like Tom B from utilizing publicly own facilities and equipment for private use.

Tom B’s program is a private program. If he produces it himself and does so according to City policy, and provides the tapes to Matt Robinson, they will be shown just like other tapes from other people are shown. But they all have to conform to the guidelines. Or would your rather have private citizens be able to voice their opinions at public expense? Somehow that doesn’t seem quite right to me.

Ubbo

Not everyone subscribes to cable. Now you know why I brought the idea up.

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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
d

Don’t worry, that will not happen. I don’t control it now and never wanted to. Control seems more in your line.

dave™

Good one. But I prefer Dish.

MST3K

It would be a great idea but there are several problems. First it’s difficult to set up live webcasting on YouTube. Next is the problems with archiving public records, indexing the videos for later playback and all the things that people seem to want when they are looking through public records to see exactly what occurred. Then you would also have to continue to pay several city employees to do the work. A service such as I have described could be paid for simply in saved salaries that would have went to city employees.

k.l.vosburg

True, and it’s a shame a community like Walnut Creek cannot provide live streaming video or indexed video on demand via the Internet. Brentwood and a number of other Bay Area and Northern California cities, including Sacramento, has this feature. Why not the citizens of Tracy as well. If the point is to get accurate and meaningful information to inform our citizens, can you think of a better method? This may not be the only idea to accomplish the task but I can’t think of anything better at the current state of technology available.

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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
mr bananas

I think the question was directed to you and the people who seem to share your beliefs. Rephrased, the question would read, “How is any of this costing you, the consumer, more money than you are already paying? The other question is rhetorical and not really a question that seeks an answer.

I can ask another question if you like. Do you even know what you are currently paying for the video service you are getting from the City at present?

amy

I did take a look at Delta College’s online-campus. Unfortunately, for reasons unknown to me, they can’t seem to get their microwave hook-up between the City and Delta College working.

LeRoyGoodOlBoy

I hope you feel better soon.

mr bananas

Mountain house very well may have a project that addresses this topic but as far as I know the on-line campus program belongs to Delta College. Other colleges have on-line campus types of Internet connectivity.

Yes I do support building more institutions of higher education. For one I think it’s better than what we are doing at present, building more jails.

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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
amy

You assume correctly. That has always been my goal. Basically it comes to this. How can you be expected to know everything that is going on with your City Government when you don’t have any real tools to keep track of it all. This tool would allow you this feature and that alone would make things more honest as it would be very difficult to hide in the mountains of paperwork we have at present.

Brian B

Yes, that would even be an improvement over what is presently available. Unfortunately you get what you pay for and it doesn’t quite answer all of the needs for accurate and timely public information that is virtually instantaneous over the Internet. Even pay-per-view or view on demand, offered by the cable service provider can do this.

mr bananas

Hello, her comments were in quotations and exactly as I originally wrote them. I do believe she was quoting me and not claiming she was involved. Perhaps you would like to reread her comment and you can see what I mean. And she’s the sleeper.

amy

That was my understanding. Unfortunately m.b has such a hate for anything pertaining to me he couldn’t grasp that.

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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
Well that about sums it up. I hope you learned something in this ordeal and honestly do appreciate your comments. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. And for those of you who find the word Christmas offensive I will wish you Winter Solstice. smilies/wink.gif
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written by Dave Hardesty , December 10, 2007
OOPS

I made an error in my response to Brian B.

I said, "Even pay-per-view or view on demand, offered by the cable service provider can do this." The sentence should be, Even pay-per-view or view on demand, offered by the cable service provider can not do this.

Sorry about that but I don't want to be misunderstood.
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written by Forward Thinker , December 11, 2007
You're abolutely insufferable
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written by amy , December 11, 2007
Mr. Banana, and Mr. Hardesty, the comment, "sleeper" is unclear. If you are referring to my second shift job and my sleeping hours, then I guess you are right that my sleeping hours differ from those who work during the daylight. Sometimes double-shift is called for.

I have done researches, reading, used, website to back what people say about you. I felt you should get fair shake from me since I don't know you well, but from the performance record that I cleaned from the wealth of information that is out there, documented, led me to believe that these people do know what they are talking about.

I know what the others are saying, but sometimes I have trouble following your train of thoughts, Dave H. since you seemed to wear many hats.

If I were you, I would not be too afraid to ask for expert help, do researches on costs, LOOK INTO THE FUTURE, and upgrade everything on digital scale.

I am saying that having meetings videoed will cut down on rumors and gossips among the people. No editing, right? That should keep your activities and the city council's activities clear and unshrouded by false information.

It would be nice to have it to watch when I get home from work and not rely on hearsay.

When I heard of Pombo's involvement in the PE waiver in 2002, it intrigued me and I had to find how much and how far the corruption went. I had to find out why the sports park was taking so many years to complete. I know why now, as well as most locals.

If you want people on your side, be careful what remarks you dish out. I see from Forward Thinker's and my coworkers, and local's comments, that you are not such a likeable person.
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written by mr bananas , December 11, 2007
Mr Hardesty: You lost me some place between the "playing fields and the killing fields". No I don't hate everything pertaining to you, don't give yourself that much credit. It's the things you represent and support that are not good for all the people. That's what I hate. Most of all your lack of questioning those things you support. Baxter Dunn went to jail as did his two other supporters for doing less than what you are doing.

m. b
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written by Dave Hardesty , December 11, 2007
mr bananas

Sorry, I do not see anything that would connect me to anything that Dunn has done. And it's funny how many people come up to me in support of the things I have supported in the past. I guess it's one of those, "You can't please everyone" type of things.

You also give me far to much credit with anything I have recommended to City Council. I make no final decisions on things like this, only my recommendations along with everyone else on the commission baised on the information we have on hand at the time.

Council makes the final decisions based on our input and everyone else's input. But having never been to a Parks and Community Services Meeting I don't see how you would know that.

You do have some good ideas. Why not work with these people so that they can make better informed decisions rather than finding fault with everything they do and taking virtually any opportunity to insult them?

Then you invoke the thoughts of your friend Tom and apparently believe you are helping his cause.

We already know I am a crackpot. But this crackpot has no intention of seeking a political office. Your friend, on the other hand, seems to still have political aspirations.

The general public isn't as dumb as people often suppose. So I guess the question you should be asking yourself is if your comments associated with your friend Tom are actually doing him any good or hurthing him.

Funny, you say I have a lack of questioning about things I support but when I question the things that don't appear to be on the straight up and up, many things that you seem to support, you don't like it.


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written by Dave Hardesty , December 11, 2007
You seem to wan't everyone to have free speech and then you and others of your apparent group take strong delight in castigating and belittling anyone who may have a point of view different from yours.

You want more police protection and then say the police don't do their jobs. Tom said he supported the troops yet belittled the reservists who have been called to active duty by stating they were just in it for the education and shouldn't serve on active duty.

You want more open government with more access to public documents yet when someone avails themselves of those public documents in order to make better informed decisions you cry foul.

You claim the schools are not doing enough to educate children yet you seem to be against building higher institutions of public learning, namely colleges.

My friend, to me you are a dichotomy. According to my ancestrial roots you would be discribed as a person who speaks with a forked tongue.

I really wish that you would place your energies into working with the people we have now in order to make things better for all of us. The snipeing and deogatory remarks from the both of us don't do anyone any good now do they?

I must also say that when I get tired I sometime respond to you in kind even though I know it's wrong. But I must say that I do find it amusing how you castigate me for the very things that you are also guilty of doing.

Anyway, this is going no where so it's best to stop. Have a good day and a happy life.


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written by Dave Hardesty , December 11, 2007
amy

Thank you for responding. I feared since TP moved this comment to the archives you might not.

In my professional life I am a communications engineer with a Bachelors Degree in Internet Communications. Digital electronics is virtually all I work with after 35 years in the field of electronics.

In that respect and given that information, do you honestly think I don't "Look into the future", "research costs" and attempt to "upgrade everything on digital scale"?

Think about it, as a seasoned and successful engineer for my corporation who utilizes all electronic technologies to build and operate communication satellites in space, for over 35 years, why wouldn't I apply the same disipline when I am making suggestions to the city in which I live? It wouldn't make sense to me, would it to you?




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written by Dave Hardesty , December 11, 2007
You comment that I am not a likable person baised on the totally anonymous comments of people who spew hate across these comments? I print my name just so that I can be held accountable for what I say. Perhaps they are not anonymous to you, but I doubt that.

You seem to be a reasonable person, does it sound reasonable to you to take the word of a complete stranger in the crowd that refuses to identify his sources and his name?

Or would you rather listen and dialogue with a known person who is not perfect but at least tries to make a positive difference to make things better for everyone?

I have never clamed to be correct all of the time. But it certainly seems that people expect everyone in the public eye to be absolutely perfect all of the time.

I am not seeking an answer but you can ask yourself this question. Am I (you) perfect in everything that I say and do?

If you are honest with yourself you will most answer that question the same as I do; no, not all of the time.

Anyway, thank you for your suggestions and I hope they do someone some good. The more public involvement that occurs in the city the better it is for all of us. And public involvement does not include sniping, and belittling people anonymously in these comment sections.

It does however involve many people getting together and rationally discussing these things until a consencious of opinion is revealed.




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written by Dave Hardesty , December 11, 2007
I had hoped when TP started these comment sections they would be used to convey information. As it is, which is why I don't comment here much any more, they largely have degraded into personal attacks against people for entertainment purposes only.

Honestly I don't have the time to spend on such entertainment.

I now see why you addressed me with your "sleeper" comment. I apologize. My sentence should have ended with a question mark as, "And she's the sleeper?" Sorry for the mistake there.

But my mistake does reveal much doesn't it? When mr. bananas thought you were talking about yourself, and thus possibly aligning yourself with Huffman and me, you can see for yourself the response he made to you.

Perhaps you don't view being called a sleeper as a deogatory statement against your character. Unfortunately I do. Other terms used like the word sleeper in this case, would be sand bagger,stooge, shill, plant, spy and the like.

I don't view you as being one of these but to me it seems mr. bananas did at that time or he would not have jumped at the opportunity to discredit you. But I will also concede he very well may not intended it to come out that way.

Anyway, thank you for your comments and being civil about it. You see I tend to respond more with more civility to persons that treat me civilly.

Have a nice day and I hope you are ready for Christmas. Myself I have a lot of shopping still left to do.
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written by amy , December 11, 2007
You are correct that I do have political agenda... accoundability, that is all...

Your description of what job and experience you have gave me new light in which to look at you. That is the information I like. I have been wondering why since you are satellite engineer would have problems with that, I see that the lack of funds could hinder the progress?

To have open access would make everyone more credible. That would protect everyone involved?

I am no way connected with Dave Hardesty, and Tom B. I am just an ordinary citizen who wants accountability practiced in any office, whether it is local or national.

To have this updated and upgraded video will be sort of protection for you and your council members from falsehoods.It would protect you and Tom B.? No more speculations, no more falsehood, no more rumors. All above board and in the clear.... accountability.

Thank you for visiting back the archive and your response.

Have a nice holiday. Mr. Hardesty.

Have a great holiday Mr. Banana and Tom B.

God Bless the Tracyites!
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written by Forward Thinker , December 11, 2007
Dave,

Writing the article wasn't enough?

You really go on Ad nauseum

Just SHUT IT


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written by mr bananas , December 11, 2007
Amy the comment sleeper term refers to someone who can do better but is waiting to make a move. Sand bagger is a term used in Bowling, Golf, Baseball, coming from behind. That is good, it's not saying your uncapable.

m. b
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written by Dave Hardesty , December 11, 2007
Forward Thinker

Who is twisting your arm to read anything I write? You really ought to let go of it and do something else if it bothers you so much.

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written by DEMOCRAT DAD , December 11, 2007
My colleagues at work got quite a chuckle. I had been asking them about these local issues, being a new kid in town. They gave some pretty scathing analysis of the situation. Some of their descriptions were pretty broad, but they all ran similarly.

Ives is in trouble. He is widely disliked. The councilwomen are seen as snooty and pushy. That Tucker woman is cursed savagely by some, disliked by everyone, even those who knew nothing else. The new guy, the cop, is still on his honeymoon, it seems. Even this deal with the pictures hurt him little.

When they saw the piece by Dave, though, and the following comments, they were hysterical. They checked with their friends, and got back to me that this is one of those rare individuals who actually has a braintrust. It got around, and was scorned, like who does this guy think he is, kind of stuff. But when it came to the playfield problems there were a couple of dads who sounded like they wanted to find Mr. Herdesty. The basic ideas was what a stupid idea it was and it's very bad to put kids in danger. Particularly the kids that belong to those dads.

So many wondered, if this guy has a braintrust, how could he do such a stupid thing? And if he did one stupid thing, has he done others, will he do more?

Mr. Herdesty, it turns out, is almost as disliked as Tucker, but nobody talked about finding Tucker.

And from what I've seen here, it does look like Mr. Herdesty thinks free speech is actually free from the rate of his use. I think anyone who goes on like that is obsessive/compulsive and probably a real pain in the rear. I bet when I meet him that what I get, but maybe I'll be surprised.

Happy Holidays.
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written by Dave Hardesty , December 11, 2007
Braintrust? What on earth are you talking about? :-

No sir, free speech is anything but free. It was all paid for by the blood and lives shed so that we could have free speech.

Yes, I may be a pain in the rear to some but there are others who feel differently. If you don't like what I write then please don't get worked up about it, just simply don't read it.

I am at a complete loss with respect to playfield problems you refered to. If you care to elaborate I might respond.

I'm not all that hard to find if your friends are looking for me. But I am now wondering if your friends have violence on their minds. I hope not as I have had enough violence in my life to last for several lifetimes.

Hopefully we will meet one day and you may come away with a different opinion of me.

Regardless, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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written by maybenotdumBcommenT , December 11, 2007
I can't believe I read the whole darn thing. I wish I was a speed reader. I'm sure whatever gets upgraded will be out of date in 5 or 6 years. Look to the future. We may get a good 10 years worth of TV equipment and I hope it is in HDTV for goodness sakes. I have one complaint about the programming now and that is not being able to watch our own broadcasts anytime and well another complaint, actually finding out when and what is on, at what time, etc.

Apparently my comment is to short. and won't add. Did you send a precedence here Dave H. Shoot, what else do I talk about, I have nothing else to say. OK, I'll try again to add.








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written by Ubbo Coty , December 12, 2007
I met and know Mr Hardesty. One of the nicest people I have met. As many of you cast judgement upon him, remember this: He is one of the few people who uses his real name to comment here (not a coward obviously) and he is one of the few (if any)City Parks Commissioners who responds or replys to the comments posted in the Tracy Press. He takes the intiative to reply, that ought to tell you something.
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written by mr bananas , December 12, 2007
You have a great support group Mr.H .




m. b
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written by maybenotdumBcommenT , December 12, 2007
It doesn't matter that he uses his real name, I don't because of people I have to protect. Ubbo, you are saying we are all cowards. We all have good and bad qualities in us. I can't believe Hardesty went on and on like that. It is just weird.
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written by mr bananas , December 13, 2007
I think he was stationed in the Dublin radar site too long.


m. b
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written by Dave Hardesty , December 13, 2007
m.b.

Close but it was never a radar site. It's a site from which satellites are tested to ensure they meet their on-orbit specifications so the government can award payment to the contractors who built them.

But you are very correct in that I was out there too long, which is why I now work out of the main plant in Sunnyvale.

That way the government is assured the money that we pay in taxes is properly spent, instead of wasting it on something a satellite is incapable of doing because the contractor did not meet all of the specifications desired by the government.
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written by mr bananas , December 13, 2007
Dave Hardesty has it wrong. Tom B said he answered all the questions that were asked of him because he was a candidate. It had nothing to with Hardesty running for anything. And, he did not like a flunkie like Hardesty questioning his back ground.
These are Tom's quotes everyone. Hardesty is a liar. Tom said he opposed the war not the troops. He had a battle with Greg Aghazarian and Carl Fogliani over their comments about the reservists in 2003 in the Modesto Bee. Their comments were that the National Guard had fantasies about wearing uniforms and they called them Captain Crunch military.
Tom said on record that he was mad as hell at Aghazarian for saying those things about our military. Now Hardesty has twisted those statements,attacking Tom. I saw the article and the flyers Dave.

m. b
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written by Dave Hardesty , December 14, 2007
Oh Wow, mr bananas has told me that Tom B says, "Hardesty is a liar." I am so worried, what shall I do? Oh worry worry worry.
Why that is as rich as, "It's the truth, I swear. I heard it from a friend who heard it from his sisters friend."
And then it claims it has the article and fliers. I am besides myself with fear.
First, last time I knew Tom B is an adult and can speak for himself, instead speaking through a non-entity. Now if he wants to make that statement in public I might pay attention.
Tom and I have already been around the block on this issue and, after getting the straight story from Mendelson, it all got straightned out. Apparently it didn't know that.
Second, if it has the article and flyers it should post them so that everyone can see where I lied.
it and I know there is no article or flyers where I have lied about anything and if there are I would like to see them.
If I lied, intentionally or mistakenly, I will publically apologize, which is a whole lot more than I can say for some people.
Anyone who follows these comments for any length of time can see the game being played and who is doing the lying.

I for one would like mr bananas to prove it, but we all know it won't because it can't. In fact I dare it to prove it by providing the facts to everyone.
BTW, the reason I am now using the term it when talking about the non-entity mr bananas, is because no one, save the Press, knows who this person is and they ain't talkin. It could be female and it could be male.
Time for a new name mr bananas, how about cousin it?
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written by k.l.vosburg , December 15, 2007
Actually, Mr. Hardesty has been very active within the Tracy community (for many years) and I honestly can't see anyone -who could replace his dedication and considerable resources.
Go ahead and take "your" chaep shots (we all do).
Once I commented to Dave: (Basically about a paragraph)...
And he responded with 4 Pages of factual dialog.
I mean 4 PAGES.
I MEAN 4 FLIPP'IN PAGES.

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written by maybenotdumBcommenT , December 16, 2007
Sometimes Dave is quite Gentlemanly then others a kind of put down usually to the same person. The more you say the less people listen.
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