Comments for Youth Movement at http://tracypress.com , comment 1 to 32 out of 20 comments http://tracypress.com Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:26:46 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-47020 ok im not going to hate the article not going to hate on turf heads out there i just wish the writer would have done more research on hip hop before he writes a comment on where its from thats absolutely false. first of hip hop started taking roots back in the early 70s in new york (some of you out there might think im crazy but do some research and you'll find im right) started with DJs playing records then with the DJs mixing records for the BBOYS then while the DJs playing EMCEEing started with people on the mic giving shoutouts to who evers in the crowd... THATS THE REAL roots to the tree known as hip hop from around the year 1970 things changed and evloved from that ... every one has their points of view on bay area rap and turfing and what not i dont understand WHY it would be underground if its already hit MTV and moved into other states i mean its still popular now take the original hip hop dance form bboying (break dancing) witch is world wide BUT you dont see very often on the streets you dont see very often at house parties or in the clubs VERY RARELY do you see it on American TV am i wrong for thinking thats what it really means to be underground? think about it (dont get me wrong im not saying bboying is underground either go to Korea and its actually EVERYWHERE ... i think it lost its underground title when it went international) - BBOYEMEX Sun, 18 May 2008 20:27:09 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46626 Soren, Bryan is correct dance is an art form. As far as some forms of art being superior that is subjective. The same goes for people. Who says superiority is based solely on intellect? What about athletics, art, humor, kindness, compassion etc.? - Concernedprents Fri, 16 May 2008 08:41:11 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46130 thedream is a cream - HAPPY JACK Tue, 13 May 2008 12:01:00 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46099 boo hoo - HAPPY JACK Tue, 13 May 2008 07:46:06 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46094 not so grownman comments from someone who claims to be a grownman! dude......... grow up already! - Silly Me Tue, 13 May 2008 07:36:07 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46049 Soren, Yes, Blake compared dancing as an art to "playing the violin or painting a picture." It looks as if we will have to agree to disagree on the subject of one art form being superior to another. One man is superior to another? Before I could even respond to that, I would have to ask you to elaborate. "Yet, I suspect you would probably say all men are intellectually equal." I do believe that all men and women under identical circumstances and given the same opportunities have the same capacity to learn, what they choose to learn and pursue is their business. Do you feel otherwise? - Bryan...Commandoz Crew REAL HIP-HOP Mon, 12 May 2008 20:11:33 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46038 Bryan, some art forms are superior to others; just like some men are superior to others. Yet, I suspect you would probably say all men are intellectually equal. Did someone compare dancing to painting? - Soren Mon, 12 May 2008 18:25:27 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46037 PS...to the writer of the article...hip-hop started in New York... - Bryan...Commandoz Crew REAL HIP-HOP Mon, 12 May 2008 18:23:41 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46025 Now... Ammo is not retarded...and how are you going to go and complain about someone being 'negative'...and then fight it with negativity? Real good way to make the changes that you are promoting with this ad... Now...Ammo is 100% right...this is NOT hip-hop. I'm not saying it's not dope...im not hating on the dance itself...but it is definitely not hip-hop. Yes, things evolve, yes things change...trust me, we've seen it in hip-hop as im sure everyone else has in their own culture. But that doesn't mean that you can start doing a dance and coin it hip-hop. If I am not mistaken, TURFing came with the hyphy movement? (someone correct me) which promotes a completely different message than hip-hop. Soren, I hope you learned something from reading these comments. Although I don't agree completely with all of Blakes statements, I do agree with him in his defense against you. It is very closed-minded of you to put one form of art on a pedestal to another. you stated: "Your statement is equivalent to saying playing basketball is the same as playing chess." his statement is nowhere near the same as saying that. Your statement compares the physical sport of basketball to the physical game of chess...while his statement was in reference to the value of the activity. I hope, in-turn, that you are a young person who is still wet behind the ears. - Bryan...Commandoz Crew REAL HIP-HOP Mon, 12 May 2008 17:33:20 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-46024 Wow, so much to say...so much to teach...so much to learn... Royce and Kristen...these kids have a lot of energy, and this is how they redeem and express themselves...if they weren't doing this, as many others have mentioned, their energy might focused on some of the negative things that life has to offer. Then you would probably be complaining about that. These kids found something that they love, and is keeping them out of trouble...and for you to talk down to them as if they're wasting their time is sad to me. It sounds as if you might have been deprived of a passion. I hate to sound cliche, but you're a victim of society. Through this passion, kids may not learn how to write a check in the 6th grade...or learn the history of the United States (which, to top it off, they get lied to about), and about Columbus' accidental discovery of America, all in about in middle school...these kids do learn intrapersonal ethics, respect, commitment, teamwork, and many many other things as they apply (as opposed to forcing a bunch of unwanted and soon to be forgotten information into their brains at the library because some guy thinks their dancing is a waste of time). Someone has to coordinate the events that they go to, teaching them financing, accounting, human resources, marketing, etc etc. Please don't hate on something just because you can't do it, or don't understand it. - Bryan...Commandoz Crew REAL HIP-HOP Mon, 12 May 2008 17:33:05 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45956 stupid quotes... - Blake Mon, 12 May 2008 14:00:40 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45955 [q]Blake, you state: this type of dancing is no different from playing a violin or painting a picture. Please explain yourself. Each art medium has a different potential; therefore, each has its own communicative efficacy. Some art forms are superior to others. Your statement is equivalent to saying playing basketball is the same as playing chess. I hope you are a young person who is still wet behind the ears. That is not an insult.[/q] Soren, Dancing is not an art form? If it were ballet, would you be so quick to dismiss it? art is subjective, so no form can be greater than another. art is only as good as the person interpreting deems it. comparing basketball to chess? is chess an athletic sport? - Blake Mon, 12 May 2008 13:59:11 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45951 This is better than taking out your aggressions with a hand gun. - Dog Mon, 12 May 2008 13:41:42 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45948 yea im bringin you negativity just cuz ya'll givin hip hop a bad name. cuz you aint hip hop. haha. a lot of us REAL hip hop heads laugh at ya'll. ya'll nothin but garbage. how you gonna call turf underground hip hop? answer me one thing.. how did it become underground? i bet none of you dont even know your history.. how you gonna call yourself "underground hip hop" and you dont even know whats it about. haha. ya'll a joke! this is my last comment im leaving, im done with these kids.. - Ammo Mon, 12 May 2008 12:51:02 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45943 way 2 go youngsters! Back in 1985- we did the same thing with Breakdancing! We started Tracy's first crew "Rocking Renegades". Before us, there was The Universe! Man...... thats old school, right there! - Angelo.S Mon, 12 May 2008 12:27:30 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45939 What a great outlet for the kids. I'm very proud of the young men and women that took the iniative to do something productive. It is definitely a lot better than hanging out with gangs, being bored or becoming obese from lack of things to do. - Corina Mon, 12 May 2008 12:02:14 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45928 A few days ago I post a comment on what I think about this article and it gets deleted! Wack! Kids like this are making "hip hop" look bad! "Turf" is NOT hip hop and it was never underground... Do you even know what underground means? Hip hop is not about money(mentioned in the article), cars w/ big rims(look at the pic up top), and what you do at the club... Do your research and understand the REAL culutre of hip hop. The only true dance of hip hop is Bboyin' but ya'll know it as "breakdancing"... I've been Bboyin for 12 years now and I clearly understand what "hip hop" is. I'm just trying to spread the message of what and whats not hip hop.. Yes I am hating! Turf is not hip hop!!!! - Ammo Mon, 12 May 2008 10:27:49 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45924 [IMG]http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk237/bagia69/216535l9jtnj1g4n.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk237/bagia69/382564i74lla1m0v.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k81/shiebj/dancing.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj236/SonicBoyBlu/DancingJesus2.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg169/Ruthel25/hehehe.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa173/yomama74yall/dancing/smile.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z32/yahzeekulit/dancingbaby1.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z254/ali08_01/bushhauhua1.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm65/kerriinwi/happy-birthday.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/majorhorrorfan/Dancing/FUNNY-22.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/majorhorrorfan/Dancing/FUNNY-22.gif[/IMG] I think Kristen prefers to do this to what ever music she listens to.. [IMG]http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/Zin23/BushPickingNose.gif[/IMG] :D - theDream Mon, 12 May 2008 10:11:19 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45919 [IMG]http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/kamau_pic/dancing.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk237/bagia69/1195430pasv98m943.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk237/bagia69/25428uzbifd4bjc.gif[/IMG] - theDream Mon, 12 May 2008 09:55:55 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/14567/2242/#comment-45915 I'd like to see a chess player with rhythm. stop putting the kids down and let them be productive instead of sitting on their but watching TV and twiddling their thumbs on the remotes. This is not for everyone, and that’s what makes a culture. [IMG]http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc27/Jaz_777/m_60ef277738fb9bca013c72921a36958e.gif[/IMG] - theDream Mon, 12 May 2008 09:51:27 +0100