Comments for Who is protecting America? at http://tracypress.com , comment 1 to 42 out of 20 comments http://tracypress.com Sat, 17 May 2008 15:15:32 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-41109 Bin Laden heads the cells world over, USA, too. Where, we do not know exactly but I fear they may attack when Bin Laden is caught or killed. That is how fanatic they are. We cannot let our guard down. While we are infighting, new cell crops up. Media is doing a fine job of diverting our attention to real issue at hand, the war that is ongoing in Iraq, where is the mention of the war in Tracy Press? See, out of sight, out of mind. - amy Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:57:12 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40950 Mike, Even if we had Bin laden's head on a platter, do you think that Al-qaeda would quit? I for one would love to see Bin Laden dead but we would still have to fight the terorists. They would just get the next figurehead to replace him. You want to blame Bush for the whole 9-11 attacks, and I will agree that as they happened 8 months into his Presidency, he has to share some of the blame. Everything I've heard from you absolves Bill Clinton from any blame. There are far too many acts of Terror in the 90's against our Country to let him and his Administration off the hook. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. - Navy Dad Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:21:24 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40928 Navy Dad, Bush absolutely bears responsibility, however, ALL I've heard is how everything was Clinton's fault. At what point does Bush share accountability? At what point do people stop making excuses for his mistakes? We still have not captured Bin Laden, nor have we rid Afghanistan of AQ. So to Ubbo's point, yes, there is a whole other set of operations going on to take out AQ, too bad most of our operational forces and logistics are focused on Iraq. And no, I did not expect us to blow away Saudi Arabia. However, where is the outrage from the right about the Bush administration selling our financial debt to Saudi Arabia? Where was the outrage when Bush asked the Saudi Prince to "please" lower the price of oil? C'mon, I just don't see that the President is truly committed to the long term security issues here. Also, I have yet to see a plan to comprehensively address the terrorism issue. Military actions only go so far, as history will indeed indicate. Mike - Mike Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:59:04 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40885 Ubbo Coty, well said brother.... - Navy Dad Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:36:49 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40883 What gets me is all the focus on Iraq. How about Afghanistan? Africa? Asia? Europe? And correct me if I am wrong, Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom are all about protecting our freedoms. Many of our forces are serving in countries other than Iraq to protect our daily freedoms. Its pretty obvious now that the media and Democrats are addicted to using Iraq as a method to reach those who do not know what is really going in the world. - Ubbo Coty Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:10:45 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40882 Now Mike, We all know that you are a Bush hater, but laying all of the 9-11 attacks at his doorstep is a joke. He certainly has to take his responsibility for it, as does the previous President, who also shares in the failure to take it to the terrorists more than in a court of law. There are some of us " republicans" who did approve of President Clinton's limited Military responses, as non-effective as they were. Do you think we were going to blow away Saudi Arabia because Bin- Laden used mostly their citizens to forward Al-Qaeda attacks on 9-11?. Clinton dropped the ball on getting Bin-Laden and that is a fact, hating George Bush or not. And you must be livig in a different Country than me as I woke up this morning and I still enjoy all of my freedoms. Huh? - Navy Dad Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:01:02 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40874 The 3000 that were murdered on Sept. 11 were done so by citizens of a US ally that the President of the US has repeatedly entrusted with our longterm financial and economic security. They were murdered in spite of the fact that clear intelligence indicating the nature of the forthcoming attack was presented to the President and he refused to act on it. He has been behind ever since trying to make up for that massive failure on his part. Oh yeah, and he was on vacation. - Mike Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:05:34 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40870 Do we know of any Americans who had there civil rights violated? About 3,000 who were murdered on Sept 11th. We are so fortunate that the government has stopped all other attempts - new sense Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:36:11 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40864 Dale, 6,000 warheads arent enough???? - Positve discusion?????? Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:14:25 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40859 P.S. Frank, take your own advice and read about Russia under Stalin for insight on the state taking security measures too far, the US military campaign against the Viet Cong and the US military campaign in Somalia for insight on the difficulties of Low Intensity Conflict and how tough it is to fight. Alternatively, please read anything by conservative commentator William Lind, of the Free Congress Foundation. He can be found each week on a site dedicated to supporting the troops, [url]www.sftt.org[/url]. - Mike Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:18:39 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40857 Wow, another doozy from Frank. He's right, all the Democrats are bad people that hate the US and should be sent to Guantanamo for interrogation. Could someone on this board please define success for the War on Terror? Anybody? Frank, what does a successful War on Terror look like? What is the end goal? The total erosion of our freedoms in this country? I thought Republicans were for small government, but you all seem pretty anxious to have the federal government listen to our phone conversations and read our email. As I've argued before, patriotism does not necessarily equal unquestioning support of whatever current policy the President has enacted. If that were the case, you Republicans are all Johnny come latelies, as I know you didn't support Clinton's military actions. But I digress. What I find most amusing about Frank's walk down memory lane is his need to enumerate all of the successes of our military/intelligence/law enforcement agencies as if somehow needing to justify them. I'm sure Frank and others on here can't believe that these are the only successes we've had in stopping terrorist activities. I guess previous administrations didn't necessarily feel the need to jeopardize their intelligence gathering mechanisms by disclosing them. On a final note, Frank, don't ever bring up the vacation thing again. Our current "war time" president, has been on vacation more than any other president in the history of the United States. And Dave, I'm sure I can expect the same lecture the next time Frank, Steve, or someone else calls those of us on the left something derogatory, otherwise that would be a touch hypocritical. Mike - Mike Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:03:32 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40848 written by Positve discusion?????? , March 25, 2008 "Its interesting that Frank Aquilla and George W. and other politicians Democrats (Pelosi, Clinton, etc.) and Republicans justified the invasion of Iraq becuase they were creating weapons of mass destruction" Clearly, someone (Saddam) was unable to play well with others. No objection, build the nukes. Better to have and not need than to need and not have - Dale Cose Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:57:10 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40824 Its interesting that Frank Aquilla and George W. and other politicians Democrats (Pelosi, Clinton, etc.) and Republicans justified the invasion of Iraq becuase they were creating weapons of mass destruction. The United States has many weapons of mass destruction and is proposing to build 125 more nuclear weapons a year with their new nuke plan. Where is the Democratic or Republican outcry. Havent heard either side object to building 125 new nukes a year in the US?? - Positve discusion?????? Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:47:52 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40811 written by mickey mcguire , March 22, 2008 Frank seems to have a difficult time with moderation in his rhetoric. "The Clinton administration … “He (Bill) bombed Africa, bombed Afghanistan, and bombed Iraq. •Killing… one janitor on the night shift… and two humped camels, or was it two camels humping… “They put the blind sheik and some of his supporters in jail.” •Missing what… a couple thousand others while being serviced? “The guys behind the Cole bombing were hunted down and killed.” •G.W.s administration, not Bill’s “Frank's list of various foiled threats, similarly, seems a bit over blown” •All threats are over blown… until the day one succeeds. First, how seriously should we have taken the guy that thought he could destroy a bridge with a blow torch? •Because you Rosie metal shop types know fire can’t melt steel. See the stressed gusset photos at the Minneapolis Bridge. “Also, the Lodi and Lackawana "conspirators" never actually had a conspiracy.” •Just attended a Taliban vacation/peaceful terrorist training camp “He demoted Richard Clark, the chief terrorism adviser under his father and Clinton, to a minor adviser.” “In 1998, according to the New Republic, Clarke "played a key role in the Clinton administration's misguided retaliation for the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which targeted bin Laden's terrorist camps in Afghanistan and a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan." The pharmaceutical factory was, apparently, just a pharmaceutical factory, and we now know how impressed bin Laden was by cruise missiles that miss.” “He tries to define a group in terms of their worst elements. Moveon.org made the shameful comment about Gen. Petraus.” "But they're not the Democrat party.” •These: Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy? - Dale Cose Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:24:33 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40802 Mark D cont. I try very hard to respect the rights of others to have their opinions as long as they also respect my rights to have my opinions. We can discuss and rationalize and work together that way and hopefully come up with a better solution. When you or I attack at the name calling business not only does it close off the conversation where information ceases to be exchanged, but those listening in the wings tend to reject the entire message even though parts of it may be true and valuable. Take care and have a great day. I understand it may rain today. I hope so because I really don't want to start my watering system but the grass is getting very dry. Dave Hardesty - Dave Hardesty Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:09:56 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40801 Mark D You may be correct in your observation but it doesn't help your cause. Rather than take it to a personal insult level made in public, which you probably wouldn't do to his face, don't you think it might do your cause more credit to just point out his errors and back them up with facts? Don't forget, there are many others who browse this forum and they will form opinions as to whether or not your arguements are sound or if you are just picking on someone you don't like or agree with. But as you take that higher ground of behavior you also need to understand that those who don't agree with your particular point of view will sometimes stoop to discrediting you with name calling rather than address the issues you espouse. We both have learned it's a rough world and it takes a thick skin to play the game. But if you think about it, and are honest in your convictions to win the game, you do yourself and your cause an overall disservice when you stoop to name calling even if it may be true. Can you agree? Obviously you and I do not agree on many issues but I respect your humanity to have a different opinion and don't call you names. If I ever have called you names, either directly, or perhaps you think abstractly, please accept my appology. And yes, I freely admit at times I have dropped my guard and stooped to the name calling business so I am not trying to depict myself as somehow being better than anyone else. - Dave Hardesty Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:09:32 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40796 written by k.l. vosburg , March 24, 2008 “Amy; Without question …Warren Christopher …had been negotiating with the Iranian people for over a year, before the week of Ronald Reagan, "swearing into … office oath," yet recieved little or no credit.” written by amy , March 24, 2008 “… Carter did not get the credit for his humanitarian effort in returning the hostages home. Many people thought it was Reagan and gave him the credit.” with the road to hell paving complete… Carter and Christopher received good intention badges for having accomplished the almost release of the hostages. By an astronomically unbelievable coincidence, the hostages were released when Jimmy was unceremoniously booted out of office and the new sheriff came to town. - Dale Cose Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:55:37 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40778 Scott and Dave H: Actually, I think Frank does deserve a rare "loon" label. He did, in fact, plagiarize from a discredited spam email in the Tri-Valley Herald (and was caught doing it). He also did, in fact, claim that current political events in the Middle East were related to some end-times eschatology (as I rebutted last summer). I truly do think he is a loon and a partisan hack and think he has put himself into the public light suffiently (as a political figure) that he deserves ridicule. - Mark Davis Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:27:11 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40760 hey news flash. what was your aka when playing rainbow six? I always scored bigtime when picturing tangos as a tango. Ahhh the sweet sound of 'tango down'. frag out! - GunningForTangosofIslam Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:56:52 +0100 http://tracypress.com/content/view/13998/2244/#comment-40757 That's right k.l Vosburg, Carter did not get the credit for his humanitarian effort in returning the hostages home. Many people thought it was Reagan and gave him the credit. - amy Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:43:34 +0100